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  1. Another reason (and I think more relevant) to buy this card is someone who has assembled an estimated computer and must have some card just to operate the computer. Personally, I would not pay more than 300-400 shekels for a roof (and I was in this situation that I owed a ticket to a new system)

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    Fans with special threading. You can chain up to 4 fans on one cable and 16 fans on one controller. Selling 7 fans, comes with 2 controllers and all the cables needed to connect to the board and control everything from the software. For more information, send a message. Flexible price.

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  3. For those who care about responsibility, it's still a kind of MEH ..... because shipping a video card (2-3 kilos minimum) to Germany can be expensive ... (a few hundred shekels) and that's what you're saving up against buying in Israel.
  4. So alternatively you suggest that the traffic in the forums be high and then its quality be random and purposeless? There is already such a site. fxp.co.il When someone turns to you for a question / consultation / problem, you must first understand the situation before recommending a solution. Just throwing solutions in the air is irrelevant and will not necessarily meet the guy's need. So instead, our job, the experienced, is to answer with guiding questions to pump the right information from the guy.
  5. I do not personally know the cooling you mentioned but it is an 240mm AIO cooling. Keep in mind that your video card (you did not specify which card and which cooling it has) is not in this water loop. This means that once you run performance tests that load the card, it will emit all of its heat into the chassis and heat the entire interior of the chassis (including the CPU). Note that although a radiator with 240 mm should be sufficient for cooling one component, I would still search Google for tests of this cooling, could it be that it is at the limit of its capacity? (Not sure but this is because it's worth checking out) In addition, you did not specify how many fans you have in the case, location, air direction .... General recommendation if "upgrading the case will improve the CPU temperature", I do not think anyone can give you that just about Just the data you mentioned because the situation you are drawing here is very general and there are lots of parameters.
  6. Maybe let the discussion opener respond? I did not understand until now what his uses for mobile .... nice that you recommended him a MAC without knowing what he needs. There are lots of reports of weird problems with M1-based computers when it comes to code. That is, developers whose main work is around code. So before the sage gets up and throws out the "It's not happening to me !!" Required .... Google search, there are a lot of discussions about it. (I personally have no Mac I just know it exists)
  7. Enough to get smart, well ... how hard you are. Did I say the quality is poor? I said generically. The definition of generic is that it has no brand. Company A manufactures the fans and sells them to both Company B and Company C. You're probably looking for someone to say you'm right to end this unnecessary discussion. You're right. Let's please finish the discussion and let the discussion open to carry out the process? Thank you.
  8. Lol obviously not .... but he asked, I answered from what I know. If he wanted world statistics, he could search on Google, we have no such information.
  9. Probably Gigabyte uses fans made by a generic company and just stick their brand on them. You can move the stickers if it matters to you. (Some heat and tweezers and it goes down)
  10. From my experience with Lenovo, what you said is true only about the business line. They are just great. (Ugly under but excellent). Their home line is not as good as the business but they are still great laptops. On the other side you have DELL I have one (XPS) I have already rolled it 3 hands in the family and it is still working properly (9 years) and another one from my wife (VOSTRO) who has had it since 2016 and now I have given it to a friend to have for school. And another one (XPS) that still stays with me from 2017 and still works great).
  11. Lol Are you comparing XFX to Gigabyte? Bali Express should be the same for a fraction of the price. I got out two weeks ago to look for just such a thing but for a 1070 gigabyte card and it cost $ 6.
  12. If I'm not mistaken, all the fans are chained between them. I do not understand big in electricity but maybe one of them will malfunction and it affects all three. Anyway it's a few bucks. It is worth trying instead to buy another refrigerator for a few hundred shekels.
  13. If you already have Eli Express, try buying replacement fans first. Such fans sell for a lot of models of video cards (this is just the fan itself, without the frame). It's a matter of a few dollars.
  14. Lol wow it was dry ..... sure you cleaned the old ointment well on both sides (both on the GPU and on the block itself)? Have you put enough ointment? Does the block create enough contact on the core? You can remove the block again and see what the residue on the core looks like. If the ointment does not cover all (or 90%) of the core then you have not died well. Upload an image of the fan. Could it be that it is full of dust around its axis at a level that is stopping it from moving around freely? I would clean it well and put a drop (really a drop) of oil in its axis (check on youtube there are guides on how to do it). It is important to clean the dust first so that the dust and oil do not form "mud"
  15. Processors used to have a static frequency. That is, the frequency was constant and unchanged, no matter what the processor would do. Today it is no longer like that. The CPU's logic is much more sophisticated and it knows how to change its frequency according to the load and power it needs at that moment. The power consumption also varies depending on the load of the processor at that given moment (which is why this figure changes and needs to be measured at the moment of load). There are many sites with written reviews (the site here is one of the examples), there is tomshardware, there is anandtech, and there are also YouTube channels that focus on the technology world like gamers nexus, there is linus tech tips, there is Paul's Hardware ... you can start with Some of these, and YouTube will already give you in the videos on the side more related recommendations
  16. What you see there is TDP. TDP refers to the minimum amount of heat that the cooling of the processor should remove. That is, in the examples you gave 2 processors with a TDP of 65W, this means that their cooling should be rated as one that knows how to remove 65W of heat (at least). CPU power consumption should be measured during operation. This is usually done by one software or another. For the question of how do you know? In reviews of a variety of hardware reviewers on the Internet, this figure appears. When they load on the processor, they measure certain things such as temperature, voltages, power consumption, etc ...
  17. I agree with you that there is a difference between the tests in the sand and what Lior shows ... a little strange. But I still think the 11600k gives a relatively good fight in performance compared to the 5600x. The price is a bit cheaper but if you give up the k the difference becomes significant. In the meantime, it is not possible to estimate a solution in the form of 5600 without x (how much will it lower the price?) His consumption problems are another matter that really harm his viability in terms of a comprehensive solution. But if you look at the processor performance for a second, the 11600 gives a great fight to the 5600. By the way, games are not that interesting. If you notice that in most games the difference between the strongest and weakest processor is relatively negligible ... That's why in testing of processors it is better to give more benches of compress and decompress of files, coding in different formats, blender, synbank and such ... what in the test of Leaner is very much missing ...
  18. You're right but I did not talk to those around. I was just talking about the price of the processor itself. What does 5600 mean without the X? What will the download of the X do? After all, the 5600 X already comes without a built-in graphics card ...
  19. It is interesting that the 11600K manages to lag behind the 5600 only slightly (really little) but it is also cheaper than it. At least in the sand the difference between them stands at 30 in favor of Intel. And if you give up the K, that difference grows to almost $ 80-90. That way it becomes a little more lucrative than the 5600 in terms of price. But he still has serious power issues.
  20. These are prices from a few months ago. Today if you get 1070 at this price it's a bargain. I sold mine for NIS 1500 a few days ago. (And there were quite a number of people who wanted to pay)
  21. Hello everyone. I set in MSI AFTERBURNER that will show me FPS values ​​and also 1% + 0.1% LOW the normal FPS it shows me but the 1% + 0.1% it does not show me in the game ... I miss something? Attaches a picture of the settings. Thanks in advance to the assistants.
  22. Thanks for treatment. The numerical data and graphs you show unequivocally show that the 11900 only slightly surpasses the 5800 (if at all - because in some tests it falls far short of it). But still in the text you added you are talking about how this processor is back to dominate the market. It's really not clear to me that there is clear evidence that he falls on certain tests even in front of the previous generation he is supposed to replace .... Regarding this paragraph: Dude, it washes words to "this generation is disgusting and shows nothing real". The real Lior of yesteryear would say that in the face of "Intel screwed up and released an inferior product here." But apparently with the maturity of the site, you have realized that you are more dependent on the sponsors than on your readers. Also, keep in mind that many young readers who do not yet understand so much in the field "look" at you and what you say as a point of reference. You have a responsibility as a reviewer (and also as a journalist - because what to do this kind of journalism for everything) to present the truth. And the truth is, you did not talk about the market situation. You did not explain which slot these processors fit into, who their real competition is (somewhat suspiciously, the 5900 is absent from almost all tests ....), who their target audience is, who is recommended to buy them, who is not ... maybe in normal market mode all these things Were a little more or a little less relevant, but in the exceptional market situation we are in now, these points are super relevant. Intel enters a slot in which it loses big but charges a premium price that is detached from reality. The only reason anyone should take these processors is if he owes a computer and there is no available inventory of estimator for summary, I hope you take my review as a constructive review of someone on the side. Keep in mind that if I did not really care about this site, I probably would not write anything here at all .... hope to read more of your professional reviews on products down the road.
  23. Dear Lior. I'm a big fan of your super professional articles for almost 20 years (from the time of the comprehensive articles on OC with the original FX series). The article you present here today is a disregard for the intelligence of your readers. The level of licking for Intel exceeds every limit here. First, see that you're trying hard not to say the word AMD in the article (maybe as little as possible) ... it's forced and looks ridiculous. Second, the comparisons you make here are not true at all. 11900 costs a lot more than 5900 but in performance shows a level quite equal to 5800 which is quite shameful ... but you still call it the most powerful processor in the field (in some tests it loses to its previous generation 10900). The 11600 may show a nice level of performance but its price level is higher than its competitor 5600. It's not clear what and why Intel is flying here with these tin processors. The only advantage Intel has that someone should even consider Intel as an option right now is stock availability (and rumor has it it's not that safe either so we'll wait and see. It is very disappointing for me to see such an article from such a professional website and a super professional and esteemed letter like you. Intel should have gotten its head around fucking processors with a price tag of market leaders. (Nobody told them that AMD overtook them half a year ago?) All this knowing that they will soon be releasing a new generation ... so why extort more money from people who do not know the situation in the market? People who can get a lot more value for less money.
  24. There is a queue of people waiting for the product. The store gives those who are willing to pay more, bypass the queue and get first. Lol you really do not see this as a problem? Lol Cool. You will continue to "not see this as a problem" and we will continue to buy from non-pig stores like Amazon and New Agag.
  25. I think after 2 "wars of attrition" you already know that in the country stores (or companies in general) are built in this way just for this purpose. Exhaust you. So that you do not have it so easy and simple to file a complaint. So there are service representatives, and fifty, and lab managers, and customer retention .... and because you're all people talking to someone else, so they have 10 different opinions and 10 different answers .... the first rule I would teach my team members is "you No problem. You're coming to help solve the problem. " The difference is that they do not really care that they transfer them from representative to representative, from department to department, so it will take another week for treatment, what do they care. You are the one who suffers with the glitch .... from my experience, once they hear "claim", it straight up reaches higher levels and treats the issue differently (again, of course provided you are sure you are right and still trying to confuse you)
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