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  1. It's inconceivable that I felt a little bad about myself 3 months ago when I bought a 3060 TI for ~ 2400 NIS. Today it looks like a deal of a lifetime. Ashkara sees TMS boasting on Facebook about the launch of this card with them at an equal price for every pocket of almost 4000 shekels and I do not understand what I am looking at. An unprecedented situation that I do not remember in my life, there is no feasibility or justification for purchasing almost any video card at the moment. At least I see that in some places there are still 1660 and such at their standard prices for those who want to build a modest gaming computer.
  2. By and large I do not like the 3070 at its price (even the reviewers abroad are not really, and with the prices in Israel it is even less attractive) and do not recommend it to almost anyone. It is just not worth it when you can pay 600-800 shekels less for 3060 Ti and get In total 10-15% less performance, it makes the most sense to buy a 3060 or 3080 and ignore the 3070 in the middle. If the thought is to buy a cheaper card and max upgrade again when you need to (there is no reason it will be another half year and not two-three years, a pretty standard life cycle for a. Screen) - I would already buy a 3060 Ti. It's also a 1440P card for everything, probably for "medium gaming" which means if you are not going to throw the heaviest games on the market while they are out. Previous generation ticket sure not to buy.
  3. In 8000 buyers a computer with RTX3080, not 3070. Processor: 1470 NIS - * Irregular supply * - AMD Six Core Ryzen 5 5600X Up To 4.6Ghz AM4 BOX Air cooling for processor: 139 NIS - * New * - ANTEC C400 Glacial White Motherboard: 689 NIS - ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS Wi-Fi Memory: 352 NIS - * Sale * - 16G (2x8G) XPG DDR4 3600Mhz CL18 GAMMIX D20 BLACK Video card: 3690 NIS - * When buying a computer sold out * - ZOTAC GeForce RTX3080 10GB Up To 1725Mhz TRINITY OC Hard Disk: 509 ₪ - WD Blue 1T SN550 NVMe R / W Up To 2400 / 1950MB / s 5 Year Warranty Power Supply: 456 ₪ - Antec 750W HCG-750M 80+ GOLD Full Modular High Current Gamer Package: 367 ₪ - Antec NX800 Final price: Cash / bank transfer: 7672 NIS For credit: up to 12 payments 7825 NIS or up to 36 payments 7978 NIS The STARTPC store. That's assuming you can get your hands on the 3080 of course. You may have to wait quite a while.
  4. The board is yes WIFI, but I do not think it is WIFI 6. Case - there are more good ones but for some reason the ones I was looking for at the beginning have disappeared from the TMS site, they probably run out of stock. Baa Computers also has the CM TD500 which is good - https://1pc.co.il/product-78100-Cooler_Master_CoolerMaster_MasterBox_TD500_Mesh_wctrl_Case_MCB_D500D_KGNN_S01.aspx and ANTEC NX800 - https:/NX_Cc.co.1 If you can find them - Be Quiet Pure Base 66153DX, Phanteks P800A, the cursor I put. All at similar prices and performance, a matter of personal preference. I would also check in STARTPC, although you do not buy a video card but still the prices there are very competitive.
  5. You got closer to 7000 than 6, and I'm not sure it's really worth it. A very expensive motherboard because of the Asus brand, it is possible to get WIFI even for less money. 32GB of gaming memory is completely unnecessary - you can always add more in the future. If you are planning to replace the whole computer for another 2 generations then you will probably not see any need for it at this time. SSDs are also very expensive. And such hot parts I was there in a more ventilated case. [b] Processors: [/ b] [url = https: //www.tms.co.il/index.php? route = product / product & product_id = 104309] AMD Ryzen 9 5900X AM4 Box No Fan [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 2836 [b] Cooling for processors: [/ b] [url = https: //www.tms.co.il/index.php? Route = product / product & product_id = 101207] be quiet! CPU Cooling Dark Rock Pro 4 [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 379 [b] Motherboards: [/ b] [url = https: //www.tms.co.il/index.php? Route = product / product & product_id = 103305] Gigabyte B550 AORUS PRO AC [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 923 [b] Memories: [/ b] [url = https: //www.tms.co.il/index.php? route = product / product & product_id = 103281] Corsair DDR 4 16G (8Gx2) 3600 CL18 VENGEANCE LPX Black CMK16GX4M2Z3600C18 [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 415 [b] Enclosures: [/ b] [url = https: // www .tms.co.il / index.php? route = product / product & product_id = 104048] Corsair 4000D Airflow TG Case [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 443 [b] Vendors for desktops: [/ b] [url = https://www.tms.co.il/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=18775]ANTEC PSU 850W High Current Gamer Gold [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 601 [b] Disks SSD: [ / b] [url = https: //www.tms.co.il/ASX8200PNP-1TT-C] A-DATA SSD 1TB XPG SX8200 PRO M.2 2280 [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 645 [b ] Total: [/ b] ₪ 6243 [color = # C87B1D] [b] Price in Eilat: [/ b] ₪ 5336 [/ color] [color = red] [b] We guarantee a very affordable price for the same specification. [ / b] [/ color] Prices are They include VAT and are payable in credit. Up to 12 equal payments without interest. https://www.tms.co.il/201804
  6. Just a year ago we had a stubborn debate here when someone asked for upgrades. The main thing is that when I and others explained a year ago (!) That the address is on the wall and it is the end of the quad-core era in gaming, probably those without HT, we received the regular scrolls from nec and his warm recommendation to that user was to buy a second hand i5-2500k based on the fact The computer has such a rush and it still flies in games. " Well, happy to see that we have straightened the line and now it's hardware that is "on borrowed time only". Luckily that user, who is still browsing the forum, did not listen to your advice. We will meet again next year to examine a host of other strong claims that have come up here recently, about DLSS, VRAM consumption, knockouts for the current generation and other things.
  7. I meant the H500 would probably be a bit quieter because the front is completely closed, compared to more ventilated enclosures with a front mesh where there is really nothing between you and the fans that will soften the noise. But that's really not really a consideration, I guess it would be pretty negligible, just a point. If he does not like LEDs and lights then why the H500i? This is a version with LEDs and a controller controlling them and paying for it. You can save and get down to a regular H510.
  8. The cooling is good enough, you can also go for something cheaper like the HYPER 212 or the ANTEC C400, I estimate that the performance will be the same but the cooling you have chosen will be quieter. Another thing that is not an acute problem but worth a note - the case is very expensive and you pay a premium of 100 shekels for some LEDs. At NIS 400 there is the H510 which is the same case just a little newer with a TYPE C connection on the front and without LEDs, if you just like its look. If appearance (and noise) are less important, you can also take a more ventilated case like the Phanteks P300 AIR \ P400 AIR.
  9. I also did not understand what you want from them. It is not even related to service in the country. Amazon and Niagg would work the same thing - selling you parts, assembling a computer from them, if one part breaks down they take care of it individually - no one will win you over the other parts simply because without one you have nothing to do with them. Those who want a warranty on a complete computer, will buy one in one store with assembly and then offer a warranty on the entire computer as a unit. This is done in Israel in almost every store and at no extra cost, it is at least one great practice that there is not here in other countries like the US let's say, where if you want a complete computer you can only buy prebuilt with ready specifications.
  10. Buy a 3060Ti for ~ NIS 2200. You can also upgrade a processor later if you feel the need but not sure you will feel it, the screen alone will be a huge upgrade to your performance. You have another problem.
  11. I was really amazed to find that TMS raised prices en masse on all tickets, even higher than they were. The cheapest 3060 TI for almost NIS 3000 ... this is the place we came to. This is joined by fresh news that Asus has raised the price of all its RTX3000 cards (their cheapest 3060TI starts at $ 500, 3080 at $ 860), and it makes sense to expect other companies to follow suit, and really it does not seem that we are even close to finishing this thing. I wonder if we will be before the next generation at all.
  12. The SSD is good but maybe a bit redundant, also the SSD I put to l in the specs is excellent and it's 1TB for almost the same price. Much better. If you take a 3060 Ti, it is also possible to decrease the power supply to 650 W. Or for 50 shekels to stay with the 750 in case you want some monster in the future, this is also an option.
  13. Do not recommend buying in TMS at the moment, the prices of graphics cards there are insane. STARTPC has the best prices. The video card you chose at Start starts at NIS 600 less. It changes all the specs that can be put together, you built a spec here with almost the same money with a significantly less powerful screen.
  14. No video card you buy today will fly in AAA games for another 5 years. Go take a look at the GTX 980TI benchmarks today. I think for your screen the budget is too high. Here is a specification from STARTPC - Processor: 1435 NIS - * New * - AMD Six Core Ryzen 5 5600X Up To 4.6Ghz AM4 BOX Air Cooling for Processor: 139 NIS - * New * - ANTEC C400 Glacial White Motherboard: 634 NIS - ASUS PRIME B550- PLUS Memory: 339 NIS - * Sale * - 16G (2x8G) XPG DDR4 3600Mhz CL18 GAMMIX D30 BLACK Video card: 3690 NIS - * When buying a computer sold out * - ZOTAC GeForce RTX3080 10GB Up To 1725Mhz TRINITY OC Hard disk: 509 NIS - WD Blue 1T SN550 NVMe R / W Up To 2400 / 1950MB / s 5 Year Warranty Power Supply: 456 ₪ - Antec 750W HCG-750M 80+ GOLD Full Modular High Current Gamer Pack: 518 ₪ - * New * - Phanteks Eclipse P400A AIR Tempered Glass DRGB White Cooling body per case: 80 NIS - Arctic F12 120mm (Quantity: 2) Final price: Cash / bank transfer: 7800 NIS For credit: Up to 12 payments 7956 NIS or up to 36 payments 8112 NIS But it has RTX3080 which is currently out of stock anywhere About. One option is to wait for it to arrive. Another option is to go for a video card that better suits your needs and also more available like the RTX3060 TI at the moment and max in the future to upgrade with the money you have saved.
  15. This specification was compiled in [url] www.wellcom.co.il [/ url] - the reliable and professional computer store chain in Israel [b] Processors: [/ b] [url = https: //www.wellcom.co.il/ index.php? route = product / product & product_id = 103538] AMD Ryzen 9 5900X AM4 Box No Fan [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 2836 [b] Cooling for processors: [/ b] [url = https: // www .wellcom.co.il / index.php? route = product / product & product_id = 103425] LIAN-LI Galahad AIO 360 Liquid Cooler Black [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 694 [b] Motherboards: [/ b] [url = https: //www.wellcom.co.il/index.php? route = product / product & product_id = 18925] Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 1226 [b] Memories: [/ b] [url = https: //www.wellcom.co.il/index.php? route = product / product & product_id = 102644] DDR 4 32G (16GX2) 3600 CL18 DARK Za TEAM [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 638 [b] Cases: [/ b] [url = https: //www.wellcom.co.il/index.php? Route = product / product & product_id = 17902] LIAN-LI Full Tower Case PC-O11 Dynamic Black [ / url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 773 [b] Vendors for desktops: [/ b] [url = https: //www.wellcom.co.il/index.php? route = product / product & product_id = 17915] Corsair RM850x 850W PSU 80+ Gold Fully Modular [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 677 [b] Fans for cases: [/ b] [url = https: //www.wellcom.co.il/ index.php? route = product / product & product_id = 102795] CoolerMaster MasterFan SF120R RGB FAN [/ url] Quantity: 5 - Price: ₪ 229 [b] SSD disks: [/ b] [url = https: //www.wellcom. co.il/ASX8200PNP-2TT-C]A-DATA SSD 2TB XPG SX8200 PRO M.2 2280 [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 1189 [b] Video cards: [/ b] [url = https: / /www.wellcom.co.il/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=103111]Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3080 GV-N3080GAMING OC-10GD [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 5494 [b] Cables and adapters: [ / b] [url = https: //www.wellcom.co.il/index.php? route = product / product & product_id = 102463] Noctua NA-SYC1 CH.WT chromax.white 4-PIN Spliter Cable White [/ url] Quantity: 1 - Price: ₪ 37 [b] Total: [/ b] ₪ 13794 [color = red] [b] We guarantee a very affordable price for the same specification. [/ B] [/ color] Prices include VAT M and are payable in credit. Up to 12 equal payments without interest. [url] https://www.wellcom.co.il/19148 [/ url] https://www.wellcom.co.il/19148 These are the changes I would make. Feel free to add more lipstick to take advantage of the budget - I can not wholeheartedly recommend extra extravagance beyond that. I do not know for whom this computer is but I hope it is clear that the same performance can be obtained for much less money, in such amounts you already pay mainly for luxuries, aesthetics, etc.
  16. The jump from RDNA 1 to RDNA 2 was that big? based on what? We have no basis for comparison. With RDNA1 they did not produce a large chip like they have today in RDNA 2. RDNA 1 did not have a high end card at all, they did not try to compete there, the highest was the 5700 XT in the middle market. When it's 6700XT we can compare the jump in architecture.
  17. I did not say it was a bad thing. I gave you a perspective in order to help because I see you appear in a lot of threads and ask different people similar questions. If that's the reaction, then I'll really stop trying to help.
  18. @zone glide I'll be out here a little nec and tell you something from a place of "teaching you". The problem with your indecision stems from a lack of experience in the hardware world. You can always wait and there is always something around the corner. Wait for the RTX4080, you will get another nec message in the face in January 2022 that actually the 5080 and AMD's next product is the real thing and there will be a huge jump in performance. Or maybe you'll just wait for the 3080 with more VRAM because it's terribly important and yet we want to own a computer for two whole decades, just do not forget that until there is such a card, already just around the corner will be 3080 Ti SuperDuper or any other invented Refresher so maybe you'll wait longer Some. I remember you even a year ago asking about upgrading your antique computer, I guess at the time you did not upgrade because you decided to wait for the next generation, now you are again considering waiting for the next generation. Buy what you need and stop letting the people here get you anxious about what will come in two years. No matter what you choose to buy and when, within 6-12 months something will come that will make your purchase look funny. I bought a 3060 ti and actually got a 2080 super that someone else maybe a few months ago paid double for. And next year my card will also be embarrassed in the benchmarks by a card that costs half. That's what it is, that's the world of hardware, if you can not get it do not buy technology. I have never seen a person who spends so much time buying hardware, and cares so much about it.
  19. @ law89 Some order - Gb is not GB. Gigabit = billion bits. Gigabyte = billion homes. Divide this 10 by 8 (the number of bits in the house) and you will get the gig you know. These 10 are simply the declared speed of the USB 3.1 standard (this is an external SSD connected in TYPE C). In practice speeds do not really get to that. For that matter the SATA3 standard of internal drives is 6Gb \ s = 0.75GB \ s. In practice you will not find any SATA drive that reaches these speeds, the ceiling is 560MB \ s. There are some overhead issues and coding that I do not pretend to understand how they work that cause you to "lose" the other 190. In short if you write 560, I would believe it's 560. And in any case I would not look so closely at SSD speeds, it is a continuous R / W speed when what is really noticeable to the average user is a random R / W.
  20. I do not know exactly what you expect, but from benchmarks I have seen MFS very very heavy and overwhelming even the new generation of hardware. In any case, something like this is the fastest gaming computer you can get on a budget - CPU: 999 NIS - SIX Core i5 10600KF 4.1Ghz-4.8Ghz Comet Lake S1200 Tray Air cooling for the processor: 139 NIS - * new * - ANTEC C400 Glacial White Motherboard: 384 ₪ - * Sale * - Gigabyte B460M DS3H Memory: 281 ₪ - XPG 16G (2X8G) DDR4 3000Mhz CL16 GAMMIX D10 BLACK Video card: 2203 ₪ - * In computer assembly * - GIGABYTE GeForce RTX3060Ti 8G D6 Up To 1665Mhz EAGLE Hard disk: ₪ 509 - WD Blue 1T SN550 NVMe R / W Up To 2400 / 1950MB / s 5 Year Warranty Power Supply: 399 ₪ - * Sale * - Antec 650W HCG-650M 80+ GOLD Full Modular High Current Gamer Pack: 367 ₪ - Antec NX800 Price Final: For cash / bank transfer: 5281 NIS For credit: up to 12 payments 5386 NIS or up to 36 payments 5492 NIS Specification from STARTPC. Maybe add another 250-500 GB of storage if needed, anyway, MFS ... from what I remember it weighs a whole world.
  21. @ nec_000 Also 3 lines were enough. Or paragraphs, for that matter. What I extracted from the text here is that you started talking about neglect as one thing, moved on to talk about planned obsolescence as another thing, and in the end you decided to close this vague logical circle and talk about both as the same thing. So I did not understand, which of them does Anodia? Because in fact it is not the same thing. If you accuse her of deliberately slowing down her products, i.e. an objective GTX980 video card today slower than it was in 2017 because of some malicious code in the driver, that's a serious accusation and I hope it's based on something. If you accuse her of "neglect", ie she stops at some point trying to milk more performance from 4 and 5 year old architectures, that's already something else. In my opinion this is a conceivable practice as long as the card is still officially supported, and to the best of my knowledge the drivers of Android support today back to the 600 series. I have no intention of entering the AMD vs NVIDIA wars on the forum pages, I do not officially encourage any corporation Mine, and I also do not have any hammer for underdogs. So I suggested that what you boast about as "Fine Wine" is simply a matter of perspective.
  22. I rely on news I read and what those same companies said to polls such as HWUB. I am not under the impression that they will lower the prices of their third party models when there is stock because that is not the reason they claim the high prices. I guess these 3,500 shekels are for a reference model, they actually sell for $ 650 if anyone can find them in stock.
  23. Don't know how much the 6800 XT is really worth the money. AMD's price does not reflect reality. His name is "MSRP" of $ 650 on it, in practice the models of the various companies are sold in the region of $ 800. And this is not just a product of the current madness and inventory situation, but simply the prices that the partnership sets for their tickets. There are a lot of stories about them accusing AMD of setting an unrealistic price that they cannot sell and still make a profit. Increasingly it seems that AMD has given its cards an attractive price on paper to win good reviews, but not one that the consumer can actually purchase. At field prices, these cards are DOA versus NVIDIA's competitors. In the country even when I see them somewhere, the RX6800 (not XT) costs more than 3080. 4700 shekels for 6800XT from Niag - this is more than what 3080 costs in the country, and this is when shipping is free and according to what is said here, this is not always the case. And the risk involved in purchasing such a product from abroad. Not really a good purchase compared to 3080 for the average consumer.
  24. There are all kinds of tools but if the game is in STEAM then there is this functionality in the sets itself. Enter the settings of the software and there is an option for FPS Counter.
  25. Do not understand this narrative of "Fine Wine". I do not know in which communities you hang out, in the ones I hang out in it is mostly such a network joke. You could call it "drivers that get better with time" ... You could also call it bad drivers on DAY 1 that leave performance on the table and take AMD a year + to fix, while Anodia's drivers are good from launch. How did we age the VEGA 56 \ VEGA 64 cards by the way? And what are the owners of the Radeon 7 doing today with their formidable 16GB, someone asked how they were? Or we forgot that these cards exist like AMD sort of. Matured less like wine, more like milk. Indeed, they have improved over the years compared to the "neglect" of Anvidia, whose 1000-year-old GTX4 series still occupies the vast majority of the market share and offers excellent performance.
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