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  1. The problem is in the overall TDP at the moment with 12900 and not with Thermal density, but if you look at the 12700 and 12600, thermally they are just fine, did not push the frequency to the clouds. From what you've heard about the next processor, you should understand that there is no change in the amount of large cores, only in small ones. https://hothardware.com/news/intel-13th-gen-raptor-lake-s-cpu-family-leaks
  2. Check your total budget for a computer and see what you can get from each company (Intel, AMD).
  3. As an air cooling enthusiast I agree with you, until you get to Arctic AIO cooling. It is excellent, it is quiet and it is relatively cheap compared to other water coolers on the market.
  4. Kfir, your reactions are incorrect, excuse me. Except for 12900K, all processors in the series are not wasteful of energy (12600, 150 watts), consume * less * in games than AMD and have better performance. The 12900 in games also consumes less energy than the 5900 and 5950 and is completely cooler! If we are dealing with all the thinners, then cooling like the Arctic liquid freezer 2 360, which costs around NIS 500, will be excellent and will maintain a temperature with such an effort around 70-80 degrees. Read some reviews, no I said. If you think innovation is risking nothing more than CPU power, then we have nothing to talk about at all, you're just recycling nonsense you read. In the context of your last post - Have you ever had AIO water cooling? What the hell are you talking about? What corrosion? What to disassemble? What are you talking about? Tell me. Also in custom cooling what you described does not exist (I have both types of cooling) but custom cooling is not cost effective cooling in any way.
  5. It seems to me that on the recurring messages about power consumption and heat it is just from inertia and that's fine, it takes time for an opinion to change. Intel has messed up beauty in recent years due to lack of competition and complacency. If you look at sample games, the power consumption is equal to or lower than that of AMD. If you look at power consumption under maximum load for all cores (which 95% of us here do not) then the 12900K consumes more than AMD by a considerable margin if compared to 5950 and all this casts a shadow on the cooling issue - if you run Synbench all day then you should have suitable cooling. If you are playing then there is really no reason to take special cooling or the 12900 at all. The 12600 is excellent for these purposes and more powerful than the 5600 and 5800. As for innovation - there is no manufacturer in the world that has created an x86 processor in the big.LITTLE configuration. This is no less a revolution and we have to wait and see how the software market will take shape as a result of this change.
  6. How many virtual machines do you plan to run on the machine?
  7. Great review Lior! What worries me much more than the prices of memory (natural for new technology) is the prices of motherboards. For some reason the tablet makers have decided to price the various Z690s like the HEDT tablets from the past and it is just delusional and very disappointing.
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