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Is light created or is it always there?


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Somehow I knew you were going to lead to this ridiculous water booth, and yet I fell into the trap. You want to say you built this electrolysis device and it worked and now you have free energy?

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What passages with you. :) "The ludicrous water cell ..." You blast. Did you build one yourself? Do you understand the principles of such a cell?

It is not !! Electrolysis device.

There is no such thing as "free" energy. At least not in the sense that all kinds of minds fuck ... fuck the mind.

It's like drilling into the ground and damaging a huge reservoir of gas or oil that will take you a billion years for brides.

For you, your investment in the construction of the drilling facility, the drilling itself, the raw material collection and other vegetables

(The total energy you invested) versus what you get in return (the huge pool), it's "free" energy. Getting a lot more counters than you entered.

Like building a good casino.

Yes, I built this "water cell". I duplicated the experiment like many others. What I got in return is far less electricity use than what you get back.

And the ability to recycle the medium itself without waste. In combustion of such a water cell, the result is ... water. Call it free energy? whatever is comfortable for you.

But, back to the topic. I asked if you know any other ways to decompose water without electricity.

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I will cooperate, no I do not know.

DA would be happy if you published here (preferably a separate Thread) instructions for building such a water cell. It's boring enough for me to give it a try.

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Since you are unfamiliar, this puts me in the position of a number of legends. A position I don't touch with a stick.

So we can keep talking, read it

"John Ernst Worrell Keely"

http://peswiki.com/index.php/PowerPedia:John_Keely

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Ernst_Worrell_Keely

You will find some fairy tales and stories there (this is how it will show you) but try to stay on topic. Water decomposition without electricity. Then we move on.

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It's like drilling into the ground and damaging a huge reservoir of gas or oil that will take you a billion years for brides.

For you, your investment in the construction of the drilling facility, the drilling itself, the raw material collection and other vegetables

(The total energy you invested) versus what you get in return (the huge pool), it's "free" energy. Getting a lot more counters than you entered.

Like building a good casino.

It's not "free energy". The fuel you found is still biodegradable. You can't keep using it forever. The term "free energy" or "leading perpetum" refers to a machine capable of driving itself forever, and depending on who you ask, even one capable of generating energy for external use in addition to its self-propulsion.

Yes, I built this "water cell". I duplicated the experiment like many others. What I got in return is far less electricity use than what you get back.

And the ability to recycle the medium itself without waste. In combustion of such a water cell, the result is ... water. Call it free energy? whatever is comfortable for you.

Please, if you have built such a "water cell", you should now pile on piles of money in the Caribbean and not spend our time on the internet forum. As long as this machine does not have neat proof that has been subjected to scientific criticism and has stood by it, it is smashing, lying and fantasy. The man who designed it is a charlatan, and if you try to convince us of its existence you are equally charlatan. Put this in your head - the existing theories are considered correct Because they work. They are able to explain existing phenomena and successfully predict new phenomena that are observed later. If a phenomenon that contradicts a certain or unexplained Torah satisfactorily occurs, it gets the proper reference and is investigated, hoping that we can develop Torah New and consistent To explain it. But all that Requires evidence! A psychic who claims his buggy is running on a leading perpetum, but not letting other scientists see the phenomenon happening or investigating it, does not warrant such a reference.

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you're huge !! Listen, let's do it this way. You will build yourself a "water cell", repeat the experiment yourself instead of calling me a psychic,

Check what you want, how you want and how much you want. Do an experiment. You invest. Make your own conclusions.

Then we move on. The information is visible to all and is plentiful, nothing is hidden. And if by the way you decide to patent it and make billions, on the contrary. For health.

There is a magician who is also scientist James Randy, a good man, who offers a million dollar prize to anyone who proves paranormal in laboratory conditions.

What I like about him is that every claim he makes is a preliminary reconstruction, just to understand what it is about.

http://www.randi.org/site/index.php/1m-challenge.html

About "free" energy, as long as you can use the fuel until you die, the ratio of what you invested to what you received is ... "free"

If you do not see it for yourself ... the fuel will run out when it is a billion years from now, for you it does not matter in the divorce. About you it's "free"

Throw in some orange seeds in the field, let the sun and rain do their thing, and pick up oranges for free until you and your children die. If you think it's an unrelated gag ... alas.

If you don't know about it, go out and learn, I have nowhere to claim a leading perpetum. I said I was courting an experiment and had my own conclusions about it.

If you read between the lines of leading perpetum ... you're not serious or anything else.

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you're huge !! Listen, let's do it this way. You will build yourself a "water cell", repeat the experiment yourself instead of calling me a psychic,

Check what you want, how you want and how much you want. Do an experiment. You invest. Make your own conclusions.

Then we move on. The information is visible to all and is plentiful, nothing is hidden. And if by the way you decide to patent it and make billions, on the contrary. For health.

I'm not going to build anything. The duty of proof here is on you, if you try to claim something.

There is a magician who is also scientist James Randy, a good man, who offers a million dollar prize to anyone who proves paranormal in laboratory conditions.

What I like about him is that every claim he makes is a preliminary reconstruction, just to understand what it is about.

I know James Randy, and you know Randy is one of the leaders of the US skepticism movement - people who, like me, seek proof and scientific explanation for far-fetched claims of paranormal phenomena, idolatry, and miracles from heaven.

About "free" energy, as long as you can use the fuel until you die, the ratio of what you invested to what you received is ... "free"

If you do not see it for yourself ... the fuel will run out when it is a billion years from now, for you it does not matter in the divorce. About you it's "free"

Throw in some orange seeds in the field, let the sun and rain do their thing, and pick up oranges for free until you and your children die. If you think it's an unrelated gag ... alas.

There is a difference - me Might Sow myself enough oranges to feed myself for life. I am Can not Build an engine capable of providing the energy required to propel it. No one who has claimed another has yet to prove that his claims are more than a handful of nonsense. No man! History, my friend, requires you to prove your claims and does not require me to believe you just because I am institutionalized and spoon-fed and you have an open mind.

If you don't know about it, go out and learn, I have nowhere to claim a leading perpetum. I said I was courting an experiment and had my own conclusions about it.

If you read between the lines of leading perpetum ... you're not serious or anything else.

Yes? So what exactly did you say? Why did you upload this machine at all? The maximum you have built in this house is quite efficient. no more! If you have contradicted the laws of thermodynamics, please come and show the world how and how. I'm ready to hear and ready to get shocking conclusions, but you have to prove it to me. Are you, however, so arrogant and stubborn that you won't admit that you might be wrong? Does the fact that you have no formal education on the subject make you immune to mistakes? I think the opposite is true.

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You are a stubborn and well-established person in skepticism. Good Head. Logical thinking. a ruler.

I'm not going to build anything. The duty of proof here is on you, if you try to claim something.

Well, here we are in trouble. Instead of trying to make claims about a model by reproducing it and only then contradicting it (as it should be) you come and yell "Give me proof !!"

That's the difference between Randy and you.

I cannot build an engine capable of providing itself with the energy required to propel it. No one who has claimed another has yet to prove that his claims are more than a handful of nonsense

Look for information on a likeable man called Howard R. Johnson and Magnetic Motor, he has some patents on the subject that no one can explain, nor am I (yet).

http://www.rexresearch.com/johnson/1johnson.htm

Either Kohei Minato or JOHN BEDINI

If you have contradicted the laws of thermodynamics ...

Say, have you ever heard the phrase Maxwell Deamon?

http://www.rexresearch.com/treshalov/treshalov.htm

http://arxiv.org/abs/physics/0311104

I am not foolproof and many times I have been an idiot and I have learned all that. The very fact that I am informal is the one that allows me to examine things without BIAS as opposed to you.

All the information you request is available, available, accessible and free. Just look.

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If all alternative science behaves in the way you behave, you can understand why it is alternative, you fucking brain wholesale (don't insult - lol)

There is indeed the alternative science and the official science Kerry, I agree that it is even a clique just like the pharmaceutical companies and the Supreme Court, but you sound like it is drooling, you may have fragments of knowledge from here but your form is obviously shitty so your actions There will be those, you sound like some evil character in one of the comics, that is how you sound and I know you enjoy being treated like that, some goofy claim to Alec "I want to know you are on the same level of knowledge as mine" if I was on your same level I might be you, but I'm an idiot who's capable of distinguishing between good and bad, you're kind, not good, maybe that's why alternative science Ar alternative, go to the university nearest you live and made fun of lecturers in physics, what do you have here? All people who have some knowledge and some (for example, like me) do you compete with? So if they are not something you do knowledge competitions with the weak? Reminds me of Kramer in Seinfeld who goes to fight karate with the kids. If you do not understand your position then you are really on your face and your Torah and your opinion are worth the ass because they are covered in shit.

If you can't explain a complex process in simple terms, you probably aren't as observant as you think you are, sending people to study all the time, so much, making up more questions than answering - so.

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Spider Squeeze !! Football bites !! Give me more !!! Do you have more?

What a foolish claim to Alec "I want to know that you have the same level of knowledge as mine"
But I'm an idiot who's capable of distinguishing between good and evil
All people who have some knowledge and some (for example, like me) do you compete with? So if they are not something you do knowledge competitions with the weak?
If you cannot explain a complex process in simple words

are good. You clearly don't understand the principle here. I'll explain it to you simply. Follow me.

Suppose there is one ... very knowledgeable about X. Someone comes to him and says "Explain to me so and so" The background to the explanation is minimum knowledge in the X field.

No knowledge? I will explain to you for the rest of eternity and you will not understand what I am talking about. Anything and everything will pop you into questions and it won't end.

Are you claiming to fuck my mind and expect everything in shit? magnificent. Wonderful . Let's check your theory.

Oh, a little something before, I came to do Devin on the weak? If that's your understanding of this business ...

are good. Regarding. Suppose you asked me about centrifugal force. Is there? interested ? Or I'll take my fucking and witty stuff somewhere else and the main thing is I'll stop here. Just say.

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I will answer you dually again

You know like a particle and a wave

There are parts you need to clean and there are parts you need to leave

are you following me ?

Do you understand ?

So please describe to me your insights (if you want to discuss the details, I will unblock)

You see, you name the other person as a tool for your amusement

Agreed that is acceptable and unacceptable and none is 100% correct

But you are given the opportunity to voice your "unacceptable" opinion and thus make the unacceptable acceptable, just like the transfer of material and energy and you, what are you doing with this opportunity? Mocking? McLes? Play ? So how do you think your theories will get caught? That's right, just like a serious game and prison, it's the "unacceptable" scientists who make their theories unacceptable, why? Because they are comfortable, because they are lazy, because they are cowards, just like you, you are a coward, so you hide behind the foolish arguments of "I want to know you know" (I already explained to you, if I understood, I didn't need your nonsense : s07: )

And on a personal note (after all, in my other Star Tale) I consider myself to understand above average well above average the concept of God (okay) and I do clown and laugh clown and laugh at my enjoyment of the subtlety of faith when I am present in the face of participants' "stupidity" and lack of knowledge ( God forbid not everyone) But always, always, I'll answer a direct question, always! I will never hide behind hanging on the other person, I have knowledge and I am not afraid to expose him and be shown as an idiot that I really am because only so I can learn, you hide and hide behind questions and behind mockery and do not answer direct questions, your truth needs a person The second to exist and therefore it is not true, is delusional theory, you can take it and ask yourself why you do not answer direct questions, you are a coward and act as a troll, even if you think we are the dumb ones do not reach the necessary understanding to be spared in the shadow of your neighbor, until You are such an idiot / fool to me that you will not prove otherwise even if you own one Interesting theory, honey is equal to ass, because it is shit coated!

And since you cannot describe a complex situation in a simple sentence, as you see you do not understand what you say, as you do not have a perception of what you say Kerry you do not see the whole picture but hold knowledge that is linear and dependent on each other.

In summary (the simple situation)

You act like a troll

You are demonstrating some knowledge

You do not reveal what you claim to know

Conclusion:

You desperately need attention (Did I describe the situation or not? Because if you said something about physics, too, except for a link and sending people to study on their own, maybe I would recap your opinion on the topic in the title)

Maybe your opinion is different on the subject, but I'd say it's real physics, you know relativity (your opinion of where you are and my opinion of where you are)

Don't worry about me and / or us, take care of yourself and share the knowledge you seem to possess, I will give up your continued psychological analysis over the spinach pages and I would also suggest you do so

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Dear spider. Over and done.

If by now you have realized that I am looking for peonies for my chessboard and enjoy watching them run like fool dogs after the bones I throw, a bitter mistake in your hands.

I'm sorry. My ridicule and classiness are not directed at the person himself but at the information he possesses as well as the emphatic manner in which one person or another expresses himself to "the Torah of Sinai."

You repeatedly (and again) repeat the erased and cracked phrase "your theory". Excerpts here. After 5 explanations on the subject, again, "Your Theory"

When I try to get you or someone else to understand that these are not my theories, I did not invent them and developed them and did not publish them and nothing.

You or someone else is bombing again ... "your theory" ... hidden ways of the universe.

I don't care if what I say will be accepted or not and I'm not looking to take care of myself. I'm not looking for post or sympathy or attention or fever.

What I understand, I understand and what I do not understand, I go and find out about him and learn what is possible.

If someone tells me that I lack a certain background in this and that, I have long since stopped seeing it as an insult or condescension and I ask what background I lack and where and how to get it.

For me it's a gift. An opportunity to develop and expand my knowledge. I never claim to be "smart enough" to understand.

When you are told time and time again that information from an experimental complex points to the left and not as seen from a single experiment (on its own), to the right, the sweeping refusal to see it is simply overwhelming.

I don't have "my truth" and I haven't and I won't. I uncovered on the left and right what I claim to know and repeatedly received an eye-catching reference solely to an information element

One and eliminating everything else. And so the subject slides to Kivinimt. Can't believe me? Read the matter again.

I am not hiding behind anything and for every question I am prepared to answer and also be presented as a fool when I deserve it.

Well, I suppose your mind will remain on you as someone capable of understanding even without background. are good. Smart and good for him.

When I get to your level, I can explain to your ears in simple words about a complex process. I'm not there yet.

Occasionally, when it understands the difference between a fairy tale story and a discussion about from the same level of information. You are not currently and refuse to see it.

I am an idiot who digs and digs and is cowardly and does not see such and such a troll. ; D Be peace and thank you for the fish. : hi:

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Sorry to break in here,

But just for the sake of arrangement (and that I feel I spent three hours reading this spinach with no appropriate value).

Mr. anonymous who (?)

I'm assuming that you know the mainstream theories about the issues you discussed. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

And despite your familiarity with the theories (and perhaps because of this familiarity) you have come to the conclusions that contradict this science,

If so, there are some people here who know the material (I'm not one of them, I'm so far from them that I'm a little ashamed of my ignorance of the subject),

Can you make neat arguments (which will contain the arguments they contradict, and the findings with which you came to these conclusions)?

Hypothetical and ridiculous example:

1. Contrary to popular theory today, I think electromagnetic energy is actually a bunch of very small sprites pushing light swords. I came to this conclusion after a long experiment in which I made observations on Star Wars movies and noticed that FORCE is basically the same as Austin Powers' mojo, and therefore it is plasmatic.

Of course I do not mock or imply that your theories sound like this, I just put in some healthy sense of humor (or sick if you ask my girlfriend).

I can testify that I am ignorant and with the country on the subject, and therefore I have a particularly open mind. In the meantime, the guys studying at the Technion sound a lot more serious than you.

You kind of remind me of Tota's rebirth of religion and belief - just don't go down there.

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I die for people with a healthy sense of humor. Good company. There is something to talk about. Laughing laughter on right and left.

But what did you end up saying? That I was dumb? Well, what's new.

Did you spend three hours reading the delusional tard and didn't notice anything? (Of course, except for my giggles. It's like a spotlight in the dark.)

Are you asking for an orderly claim? Here's one. The visible and spent universe looks, all, full and empty, with all its wonders and mysteries is nothing more than a "static information system"

Now everyone who jumps at me will cry out to the heavens ... "Prove !!" שלך Delusional and shit-coated. "You also wrote" yours "

Robb. It's like asking someone with faith to prove the existence of God.

If you claim to be ignorant but open-minded, then you are not great. Really. Never be ashamed of what you do not know.

The kind of society that they study or study in all kinds of places I have nothing against them or their opinion, I have a lot against the "Torah from Sinai" they are so protective of.

In the formal scientific establishment itself, there are quite a few people who think, for example, that relativity is poor and trying to give alternatives. What do they get? Please.

Here is a book that I recommend to many (many!) People to read:

"Conjectures and Refutations: The Growth of Scientific Knowledge"

http://books.google.com/books?id=fZnrUfJWQ-YC&pg=PA127&lpg=PA127&dq=%22relativity+theory%22+dismiss&source=bl&ots=y00SnK3Wbj&sig=L3J9JlrihWYmMQqxqbHEEAxMVN4&hl=en&ei=IrEjSt6hCYuT_QbM5OTCBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#PPP1,M1

Proofs and rattles. Shall we continue? Neatly ? Have fun.

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