z490m VS h470m for PC programming with I7

[lompy 378]

Need to check, I did not follow boards of Intel.

If I have time tomorrow evening or the day after tomorrow I will try to check.

Maybe someone else knows how to recommend.

What about the budget?

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Need to check, I did not follow boards of Intel.

If I have time tomorrow evening or the day after tomorrow I will try to check.

Maybe someone else knows how to recommend.

What about the budget?

 

Thanks.

On the order of NIS 500-700.

[lompy 378]

In this price range from the selection in the tangle, it seems to me that the most lucrative board is the

 

TUF-GAMING-H470-PRO

 

https://www.plonter.co.il/detail.tmpl?sku=TUF-GAMING-H470-PRO&cart=1605804594687871478

 

Which costs NISNUMX.

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In this price range from the selection in the tangle, it seems to me that the most lucrative board is the

 

TUF-GAMING-H470-PRO

 

https://www.plonter.co.il/detail.tmpl?sku=TUF-GAMING-H470-PRO&cart=1605804594687871478

 

Which costs NISNUMX.

Thanks!

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In this price range from the selection in the tangle, it seems to me that the most lucrative board is the

 

TUF-GAMING-H470-PRO

 

https://www.plonter.co.il/detail.tmpl?sku=TUF-GAMING-H470-PRO&cart=1605804594687871478

 

Which costs NISNUMX.

I see that there is also the asus PRIME Z490-P at 783.

In the picture you put earlier it is in first place out of the panels tested.

In relation to the TUF-GAMING-H470-PRO, is it worth investing another NIS 140? In what ratio is the H470 in relation to it in this matter of heat?

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[lompy 378]

According to Steve's test he is actually in second place or at most on par with the second board, e MSI Z490-A PRO runs at a higher frequency.

To make a comparison you have to test them all under the same conditions, I have no ability to make a comparison from the right.

I can say of asus PRIME Z490-P has VRM probably more successful but I do not think it will give you much, say run at 10 degrees less when all the cores are in effort. Because the processor you chose does not have OC capability so does not see what the point is.

 

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According to Steve's test he is actually in second place or at most on par with the second board, e MSI Z490-A PRO runs at a higher frequency.

To make a comparison you have to test them all under the same conditions, I have no ability to make a comparison from the right.

I can say of asus PRIME Z490-P has VRM probably more successful but I do not think it will give you much, say run at 10 degrees less when all the cores are in effort. Because the processor you chose does not have OC capability so does not see what the point is.

 

many thanks!!

Going to order ..

[lompy 378]

Note

1. that you lower the voltage limit in the BIOS so that you can get the maximum operating frequencies that the board and processor allow.

     If I am not mistaken the default limits to the spec of Intel.

     I think it was once called ALL Core BOOST or something like that, today I have no idea, need to check in the booklet of the board.

 

2. In any case, I recommend thinking about good airflow in the case that will help lower the temperature of the VRM and CPU.

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Well, I went back a little.

Call today from Tangler to say that this board is ATX And the case is mATX or ITX ...

 

And since I do not want to replace the case (it matters to me its size and characteristics) then I have to choose Motherboard Other...

[et al 462]

I do not really recommend the case you chose in terms of ventilation and it is also not that small but assuming you stay with it you need a mATX board.

 

I would go for it: 

https://www.plonter.co.il/detail.tmpl?sku=PRIME-H470M-PLUS

Although the VRM is not at the level of the boards you talked about but for the processor without Overclock That should be enough

[lompy 378]

Do not see many options, or in the panel that etal suggested or the TUF-GAMING-B460M-PLUS-Wi-Fi

https://www.plonter.co.il/detail.tmpl?sku=TUF-GAMING-B460M-PLUS-Wi-Fi&cart=1606986393208695475

 

They both have more or less the same VRM but Asus seems to have a slightly more successful HitSync

[et al 462]

Except the design is almost the same board, the TUF has WIFI but you miss the portsUSB Gen 2

[lompy 378]

Honestly, I did not look at it. Just the Asus hotsink seems more serious but it's also a consideration.

Overall I think it's better to have a slightly larger and ventilated case than to replace a board.

 

Must note that there is probably no micro board more lucrative what MSI MAG B460M MORTAR

 

Edited December 2020 3 By lompy

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Thanks!!

They had in stock GIGABYTE z490m but I'm going for PRIME-H470M-PLUS. Will take a few more days.

 

About Cooling Processor:

I put be quiet! CPU Cooling Pure Rock Slim

 

Regarding airflow:

In the case (VSK10) you can put 3 front of 120 (or 2 of 140) + 2 tops of 120 (or 2 of 140) and one back of 120.

The case comes with one 120 fan at the back.

 

I'm going to buy fans Arctic F12 PWM (unless there is something better - it is important to me PWM so that it does not just make noise).

How much do I need?

I take into account that in Israel one costs NIS 51, so 3 or more, I will already buy five on Amazon at 145. (with PST because there are only 3 ports per fan on the board)

 

[lompy 378]

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They had in stock GIGABYTE z490m but I'm going for PRIME-H470M-PLUS. Will take a few more days.

good decision.

ל GIGABYTE z490m has a shocking VRM, do not understand why boards are manufactured Z490 With such a bad VRM.

 

 

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Regarding airflow:

In the case (VSK10) you can put 3 front of 120 (or 2 of 140) + 2 tops of 120 (or 2 of 140) and one back of 120.

The case comes with one 120 fan at the back.

 

I'm going to buy fans Arctic F12 PWM (unless there is something better - it is important to me PWM so that it does not just make noise).

How much do I need?

I take into account that in Israel one costs NIS 51, so 3 or more, I will already buy five on Amazon at 145. (with PST because there are only 3 ports per fan on the board)

 

I was there, at least one in front putting in, one up taking out, one behind putting out.

If you buy 5 then that will suffice

 

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About Cooling Processor:

I put be quiet! CPU Cooling Pure Rock Slim

 

Cooling is not bad but they have the same price the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Spectrum RGB

Which has 4 tubes versus 3 in rock slim

By KITGURU (who usually knows what he's talking about)

https://www.kitguru.net/components/cooling/dominic-moass/be-quiet-pure-rock-slim-cooler-review/6/

ה Hyper 212 is Cooling Significantly better.

 

 

 

Edited December 2020 4 By lompy