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Determined to be admitted to Tel Aviv University


SharonX

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The title is equivalent to courses (and in some cases even more) to a degree in industrial engineering, and is treated equally with regard to jobs (as one who studies it, has job interviews with others who studied industrial engineering at colleges and universities and his friends who undergo job interviews) Know what I'm talking about. I also compared courses between the degrees and the difference was so minimal (credits for this and that in certain courses).

The degree is called "management of technology" and is brought to Israel, and there is also a situation in Jerusalem (including MSc).

In any case, this is not the subject of discussion.

With regard to GMAT, if your average is high enough, you are exempt from it in MBA studies at BGU, for example.

As for Tel Aviv, you have to be something like the tenth of the class, and there is no exemption in this respect.

By the time you get to graduate school, things will probably change (and not for the better, I suppose), but you do not have to study there, the total is about two days a week, not critical.

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Differences in the curriculum also exist among the various educational institutions for the same degree. I believe that the program is close to the programs of industrial engineering and management. It does not matter. There is a reason why this title is called "technology management". It is not your job to decide which degree is parallel or not. You can not come and say you study engineering because you do not. If someone who hears that you are studying for an X degree decides for himself that it is equivalent to Y, great.

Like I said, if you do it to an employer, you can get in pretty serious trouble. A graduate of this degree is not allowed to register in the Engineering Register. Equally I can come and say that I graduate from MIT because it is "parallel". but I do not.

I know very well what goes with the GMAT. I did not long ago. I just can not figure out why you mentioned it and why you're assuming that his subsequent studies, if there are any, will be an MBA. By the way, as far as I can tell, for Tel Aviv enough is something like a 80 or higher percentage (roughly 48 quantitative).

Tel Aviv has no degree in management , Holds a degree in Management (B.Sc., M.Sc.). Hoping that next year I'll force myself to start ... P-:

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A registration in the Engineering Register is a bureaucratic issue that was not approved because "there are too many colleges that provide an engineering degree in the center" - yes, that's what they said more or less at the CHE. ) Since this is a BSc degree of 4 years. The MBA proposal was generally anyway.

In Tel Aviv you have a MSc degree if you look again, I found a link here: http://www.universities-colleges.org.il/%D7%AA%D7%95%D7%90%D7%A8-%D7%A9%D7%A0%D7%99-%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%94%D7%95%D7%9C-%D7%98%D7%9B%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%92%D7%99%D7%94-%D7%90%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%91%D7%A8%D7%A1%D7%99%D7%98%D7%AA-%D7%AA%D7%90/

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The current situation, without additions, is exaggerated, and it is not far from trials.

Again, all these things do not matter. For the X-class, you can not say it's a Y degree. You have the right to say that it's a Y degree with a curriculum similar to X.

To come and dismiss the registration in the Engineering Register as a "bureaucratic issue" and nothing more - it is a complete disregard for anyone who has made an effort in his life and has won this right. There is a reason why the notebook exists. For that matter, I am not registered in it.

This is not a degree in military service, it is a master's degree inManagement In "Management of Technology and Information Systems". No, a graduate of this degree can not say that he has a master's degree in engineering (as someone who hopes to graduate from this program in three years).

http://recanati.tau.ac.il/masters

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I am currently a student of electrical engineering. I started with BGU and a year later I moved to the college in the center (for logistical reasons I had to move closer to home).

To start with, I would like to point out that there is a difference between the contents of the study and their scope, which greatly frustrated me at the beginning, that I could not stay in the south. I finished the year with the 76 average. However, in the college I stand on 94 (although the averages are quite similar to the UNI)

But the fact that the 85 average in engineering at the university (electricity - not familiar with machines or data) is almost impossible.

On the other hand, the more important the MA degree is, the more important the experience (assuming that you keep an average in the 80 + area)

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Specific in electrical engineering and software engineering there is a very, very respectable labor supply in Israel. You can get a normal job as a college graduate. From there onwards, mainly important skills and less formal matters. (Nothing is absolute, of course, there are deviations here and there)

The experience is important - but the thing is that a college graduate is harder to start gaining experience and harder to accumulate "good" experience. Again, in the software, this is a bit less critical. Except that the college level, on average, is lower. And there is nothing to do - studies do bring essential tools to the labor market when it comes to serious jobs.

There are graduates from lesser-known colleges in the market, such as Afeka (sorry for the embarrassment), who barely manage to integrate into the labor market. Sure and certainly when it comes to machinery engineering from Afka.

Industrial Engineering and Management:

There is work, but the supply of jobs open to college graduates tends to be more "clerical." The salary is not particularly high. I recommend avoiding this title (as a graduate ..).

It is also possible to integrate into all database or BI issues. This is also a very interesting area in my opinion (I do this about half of my job). Wage there is more likely. But still feel "kind of" as opposed to software graduates. There is no respect and appreciation for the good SQL developers in Israel. People who deal with this know almost nothing - because people think that if you know how to write a SELECT statement you know SQL. The "managers" do not understand that this is a whole world, and in order to do things in a good and correct way - you need a lot of knowledge (and high intelligence).

It's better to study software engineering and that's it.

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Afeka has much less experience, right. Ido, can you base your argument a bit more on Machka graduates (or at all Afeka graduates)? Something more solid.

Software - I have heard from third and fourth year students that a lot of software students (Afeka) find work relatively easily even during school. But it does not seem to me that it's me so :-(

By the way, I really do not rule out trying to relocate and work abroad for a few years, and I've heard that there's a lot of demand for mechanical engineers in Australia - can anyone base / add information?

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I do not have how to base the claim. I do not have a sample and I do not claim that what I am saying is an absolute truth. I knew a few people who studied biomedical engineering and mechanical engineering - it was very hard for them to get a job. As I said, for graduates of software engineering (also from Afka) it is easier to find a job.

I wrote to you in a private message what I thought about the entire "It's not me" section. It's bullshit. In the end, work is a job. There is a huge variety of jobs. Not every software engineer does the same job as another software engineer, even if the name of the job is the same. (Which is true for any other field)

I often hear the nonsense of "I do not want to sit in front of the computer and write lines of code all day." So yes, that's nonsense. People live in a serious film that in other roles all day they deal with people, motivate processes, do something exciting and fascinating. so no. Most of the jobs of engineers just sit in front of the computer and do something boring. At least programming has some challenge and many times the satisfaction is more immediate (fun to see which part of the software you wrote and works).

In the end have to earn money to rent an apartment and promote themselves in life. There is money in software and electronics.

I do not know about relocation. I do not know how many employers there will give a damn about Afeka (or Shenkar) too.

Age - As a college graduate, you are right - partly. so it seems The studies and the degree of intelligence are lower, on average. But part of the matter of talking about difficulty etc. These are simply attempts to legitimize these studies and "magnify" them.

post Scriptum

Sharon, what do you think you will do at work that you will have after you finish industrial engineering or management studies or mechanical engineering studies?

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Agree with your claim, Ido. Many do not realize that even as a mechanical engineer or electrician you may find yourself sitting and writing lines of code.

And without any connection, software engineering is also a work done on a team, with people, with human relations. This is not the lone wolf model sitting all day in front of the computer.

Money is important, indeed indeed. But people who are not going to learn something they connect to, end up spending it on psychological therapy, gifts and toys to compensate themselves for their dissatisfaction (see the case of spineless 35 girls and chocolate).

What I think is certainly different from what actually happens, but I do want to work with quality people. I do want to work in a technological environment, and I do want to feel that I am influencing processes and not being a little screw in them. Whether software, management or machines.

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In a large company you will always feel like a small screw in the system. When you work for an organization that has hundreds and thousands of employees, you feel like an ant nest.

An industrial engineer and management is usually an upgraded clerk. Today every postma learns industry and management. In the first recession half of those industrial and management engineers will go to sign unemployment. If you are going to study engineering you will learn a real hardcore engineering like electrical or building. You will learn a profession in which you estimate the age and experience you will not find yourself at the age of 40 rolling through job interviews.

Jump to the water. In the worst case you go to learn something else.

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In a large company you will always feel like a small screw in the system. When you work for an organization that has hundreds and thousands of employees, you feel like an ant nest.

An industrial engineer and management is usually an upgraded clerk. Today every postma learns industry and management. In the first recession half of those industrial and management engineers will go to sign unemployment. If you are going to study engineering you will learn a real hardcore engineering like electrical or building. You will learn a profession in which you estimate the age and experience you will not find yourself at the age of 40 rolling through job interviews.

Jump to the water. In the worst case you go to learn something else.

Thanks to lev-27 for the superfluous response of the week.

An industrial engineer and management is not an upgraded clerk - anyone who studied with me (at the Technion) found work, no one is a clerk or close to it. They deal in various fields, from ERP systems, through various roles in the IT world, to the proper programming in Java.

Of course you can always go to study accounting and earn at the age of 30 one-third of what you would earn if you were studying engineering.

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Of course you can always go to study accounting and earn at the age of 30 one-third of what you would earn if you were studying engineering.

This is true. But I guess there's also the question of what happens at 50. I'm not sure then that the engineer's situation will necessarily be better.

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Thanks to lev-27 for the superfluous response of the week.

An industrial engineer and management is not an upgraded clerk - anyone who studied with me (at the Technion) found work, no one is a clerk or close to it. They deal in various fields, from ERP systems, through various roles in the IT world, to the proper programming in Java.

Of course you can always go to study accounting and earn at the age of 30 one-third of what you would earn if you were studying engineering.

And how exactly is it related to industrial engineering and management? What are you exactly an engineer? This is a general title that does not qualify for any specific field. This is why graduates spread between ERP systems and Java programming. In the first recession, half of those industrial and management engineers will go to sign in the office. Remember my words.

And yes, I study accounting. Even as a tax consultant I make a pretty good living. I strongly recommend you get off the tree you climbed on.

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