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I believe they will only be treated if they are in a better condition than NVIDIA.

And for those who want to wait a little longer ...

3080 with 20GB is a long known fact, not something new, and is around the corner. But, the 3060Ti cards are a little fresher - these will be based on the 3070 core only with a 20% cut in cores. Fortunately the same amount of memory is 8GB

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Indeed borderline and problematic .... already today.

See for example Dom Ethernet in 1440P in max settings consumes more than 8GB .... 

And it's not the only title.

 

From what can be understood, it is said that the 3070 came out in a 16GB version for $ 500 not long after,

And the 8GB version will go down in price to $ 450.

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Indeed borderline and problematic .... already today.

See for example Dom Ethernet in 1440P in max settings consumes more than 8GB .... 

And it's not the only title.

 

From what can be understood, it is said that the 3070 came out in a 16GB version for $ 500 not long after,

And the 8GB version will go down in price to $ 450.

So you think you should not buy it and wait for the RTX3070TI?

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Indeed borderline and problematic .... already today.

See for example Dom Ethernet in 1440P in max settings consumes more than 8GB .... 

And it's not the only title.

 

From what can be understood, it is said that the 3070 came out in a 16GB version for $ 500 not long after,

And the 8GB version will go down in price to $ 450.

This is really my main problem with the 3080. Why should a 2080Ti owner (for that matter), whom Nvidia calls on him to come and upgrade to a better product at high resolutions, upgrade when he loses quite a bit? Effective (which becomes critical in these resolutions)?

The 20GB version is a no-brainer at this point, as long as Want people to treat 3080 as a ticket .

 

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16 / 20GB versions go around and will be launched (probably?) After the launch of RDNA2 on 28.10 as a counter reaction move. This time she was made aware 

That you will probably have to be prepared for a lot of counter-reactions, unfortunately with a very short blanket left in her hand in this generation.

 

The first tens of thousands of cards sold with 10GB, will find themselves loaded on the second-hand boards, creating a considerable financial loss

For someone who was reckless / hurried and purchased them as a guinea pig from Nvidia. The same series of buyers that actually serves as a large-scale pilot for the manufacturer,

In order to learn from him and on his back all the ailments of the new technology.

 

Those consumers who rushed to purchase 10GB versions, will sell the pilot cards they bought (with too little memory), at a loss of half the "size"

Used for only a few months, only to buy a new one again at full price, but with the right amount of memory = 20GB.

 

The nature of those in a hurry in this area, is to incur a significant financial loss. Also paid dearly (above MSRP price) because there was speculation in product prices

That there were not enough of them on the shelf, and they will also sell no more than $ 400 in my estimation, because the market and the community will already have a hard time signing the pilot versions

Their too few . That is, on the day of the launch of RDNA2, they will already be talking about it and a lot in the media, especially compared to the 16GB that Big will have. .

 

It is true that not all consumers are interested in money, there are those (too many unfortunately) who do not make any calculation for money, the so-called poor educator.

They do not understand this. And I will not surprise anyone if I learn / share, that these guys (who do not account for money), never have a penny on their ass. explanation:

Every penny that is only received by them on a regular basis, as a gift from someone (parents) or a reward, straight finds itself used for a new consumption, one that never ends.

Every day there is the "toy on duty" to justify the waste and financial expense on it. Moreover, in an age where credit has long been a global epidemic,

Those "who do not make money" friends not only consume every penny that comes in on a regular basis, but also consume the pennies of the future, in the form of credit

Who suffocates them and is strong. And as long as they are provided with this drug called credit, they utilize it to the last shekel that the credit providers allow them.

One day this way of life will explode in their faces, and it will explode for everyone like that - in turn. What you do not learn through the mind, you learn through the feet.

 

Only he who does account for money, who cares what he spends how much and why, knows how to hoard the money aside, and slowly produce a mountain of money over the years.

It all starts and ends with home schooling at a young age, and financial education. That the sooner you get into the child's head, the so it begins to produce products.

 

 

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16 / 20GB versions go around and will be launched (probably?) After the launch of RDNA2 on 28.10 as a counter reaction move. This time she was made aware 

That you will probably have to be prepared for a lot of counter-reactions, unfortunately with a very short blanket left in her hand in this generation.

 

The first tens of thousands of cards sold with 10GB, will find themselves loaded on the second-hand boards, creating a considerable financial loss

For someone who was reckless / hurried and purchased them as a guinea pig from Nvidia. The same series of buyers that actually serves as a large-scale pilot for the manufacturer,

In order to learn from him and on his back all the ailments of the new technology.

 

Those consumers who rushed to purchase 10GB versions, will sell the pilot cards they bought (with too little memory), at a loss of half the "size"

Used for only a few months, only to buy a new one again at full price, but with the right amount of memory = 20GB.

 

The nature of those in a hurry in this area, is to incur a significant financial loss. Also paid dearly (above MSRP price) because there was speculation in product prices

That there were not enough of them on the shelf, and they will also sell no more than $ 400 in my estimation, because the market and the community will already have a hard time signing the pilot versions

Their too few memory. That is, on the day of the launch of RDNA2, they will already be talking about it and a lot in the media, especially compared to the 16GB that Big will have. ships.

 

It is true that not all consumers are interested in money, there are those (too many unfortunately) who do not make any calculation for money, the so-called poor educator.

They do not understand this. And I will not surprise anyone if I learn / share, that these guys (who do not account for money), never have a penny on their ass. explanation:

Every penny that is only received by them on a regular basis, as a gift from someone (parents) or a reward, straight finds itself used for a new consumption, one that never ends.

Every day there is the "toy on duty" to justify the waste and financial expense on it. Moreover, in an age where credit has long been a global epidemic,

Those "who do not make money" friends not only consume every penny that comes in on a regular basis, but also consume the pennies of the future, in the form of credit

Who suffocates them and is strong. And as long as they are provided with this drug called credit, they utilize it to the last shekel that the credit providers allow them.

One day this way of life will explode in their faces, and it will explode for everyone like that - in turn. What you do not learn through the mind, you learn through the feet.

 

Only he who does account for money, who cares what he spends how much and why, knows how to hoard the money aside, and slowly produce a mountain of money over the years.

It all starts and ends with home schooling at a young age, and financial education. That the sooner you get into the child's head, the so it begins to produce products.

 

 

You will hear the gap between your responses is just crazy.

You have smart and accurate responses and after that responses that are just a huge crate of nonsense.

Why would someone who loaded 3080 in MSRP sell it? Why?

If you buy With 600 hp - do you lose if the next generation of your vehicle comes out with 650 hp?

Because that's about what you said.

 

Most of the customers of these cards are With 144+ HZ screens that just want lots of frames.

Most of them play on the lowest settings for Maxx FPS and therefore do not get the use of VRM anyway.

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Daniel,

You asked why they would buy again.

The answer is that consumers from the print shop who bought first will understand that they are releasing the 20GB versions, mainly because the 10GB versions are not 

Sufficient for running modern titles with high resolution for example , In full graphic settings for example ultra. For example the new Dom and there are a few more already.

This is what you missed in all this business. This is why they will take out the 20GB, more than any other reason.

 

Consumers respond that this was the launch of something fast, that was missing Provides to support what the graphic core is capable of

Give in terms of computational power, will want to update soon to such a version as capable. Certainly after when the whole network will talk about it at launch

Of the 20GB versions, and in fact already started talking from two weeks ago if you followed.

 

Whoever did not mind buying the last word in the field, first of all, and pay in addition a speculation premium for the price,

Because MSRP did not really manage to buy mountains, he would not mind upgrading again. Even for the most part this group, will not mind selling the previous one

Who bought recently, and lose due to it quite a bit in a short period of time. The cost here is a secondary consideration for this group of consumers.

 

And the example you gave about cars is excellent - and serves the purpose, you just do not know the subject, because you do not belong to the target audience in question.

Buyers of the new toy on the road are often very upset that within a year a more shiny model comes out with one more signal in the anal and an upgrade of 50 hp,

And you will be surprised how many of them immediately buy the new one again even after only one year. Over 50% of those who bought the previous model. Amazing right.

A first lesson in branding and marketing in the US will tell you about the phenomenon that erupted strongly in the 50s from the American car manufacturers GM,

Who discovered the weakness of the market for the subject. They found him research and later wrote the books in the field. They would change Cadillac's headlights every year

And the grill on the front, move a letter in English and that's more or less the change. The main Cadillac 54 will be different from the Cadillac 55.

And so every year they sold a new model to a huge group of customers who had to keep the last word in the parking lot near the house. It's their fun

And the show they do on the neighbors. Show off a lot of people love, more than you are aware of.

 

So what you have brought is an excellent example which is repeated in consumer areas among the buyers of "flagships". Flagship buyers are preferred

Their purchase not because of the cost or buying efficiency, but despite the cost. They have a strong desire and need to hold in their hand, the latest piece of ability

Having on the road. 

 

On this weakness of the target group in question, the consumer industry builds high-frequency repetitive sales,

Flag products, with one replacing the other at regular intervals. A group of engineers take care of removing the previous product each season,

Even with a cosmetic change and a new name, just to sell more. Read about it materials from the US, the topic is fascinating and is from the field

Consumer Psychology.

 

Sharing this opportunity that I have a friend, buys flagships of screen accelerators every generation anew, even if it's already a year later. No matter the price.

When they charged $ 250 a decade ago, that's what he spent. When they charged $ 1300 two years ago for 2080ti, that's what he did then.

And if they charge $ 3000, he promises to do it again. And the biggest thing - to move the punch line that you are not aware of:

He is in his 30s and does not play with his computer at all. is nothing. He's just running hawks for fun. That's his pleasure.

Why did Elijah then spend the money? After all, he can watch YouTube and it's free.

His answer was that I wanted to and I did not have to give an account to anyone. 

In this he is right.

 

On a target audience like him who is a very large target audience from flagship products, Nvidia and many other companies in all areas of consumption, do one

From their major sources of income. The premium car industry is also built on a large group of such buyers.

Especially the BMW Bmws and the expensive Porsche and the like. These are not products that buyers are looking for value for their money

These are eye-popping status status products that are coming to address a very special hunger that befits the field. Mercedes and BMW have found that luxury vehicles

Their 7th and S-Class series, are replaced by dentures, averaging only 1-2 years. They bother every year to update something even symbolic

Yes, just to continue to support this need in the market.

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The question is how much will 3080 20gb cost. Is there a price direction? I find it hard to believe it will stay in the current price range.

 

It is likely to go up, but it is more likely to be determined as a function of what the competition will generate.

If on the one hand Releases something equivalent to 3080, with 16GB And the price is say $ 600, which will put heavy pressure on Nodia to spend

The 20GB version at a price quite close to the original $ 700.

And if, on the other hand, AMD does not release something that puts pressure on Nuida, ie non-competitive, then the video has more flexibility to release the

The 20GB version is significantly higher priced. Say to $ 900. 

 

Only the competition and the pressure it will generate will determine the level of pressure applied to NVIDIA and accordingly the pricing of the new one.

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Daniel,

You asked why they would buy again.

The answer is that consumers from the print shop who bought first will understand that they are releasing the 20GB versions, mainly because the 10GB versions are not 

Sufficient for running modern titles with high resolution for example 4k, In full graphic settings for example ultra. For example the new Dom and there are a few more already.

This is what you missed in all this business. This is why they will take out the 20GB, more than any other reason.

 

Consumers respond that this was the launch of something fast, that was missing memory Provides to support what the graphic core is capable of

Give in terms of computational power, will want to update soon to such a version as capable. Certainly after when the whole network will talk about it at launch

Of the 20GB versions, and in fact already started talking from two weeks ago if you followed.

 

Whoever did not mind buying the last word in the field, first of all, and pay in addition a speculation premium for the price,

Because MSRP did not really manage to buy mountains, he would not mind upgrading again. Even for the most part this group, will not mind selling the previous one

Who bought recently, and lose due to it quite a bit in a short period of time. The cost here is a secondary consideration for this group of consumers.

 

And the example you gave about cars is excellent - and serves the purpose, you just do not know the subject, because you do not belong to the target audience in question.

Buyers of the new toy on the road are often very upset that within a year a more shiny model comes out with one more signal in the anal and an upgrade of 50 hp,

And you will be surprised how many of them immediately buy the new one again even after only one year. Over 50% of those who bought the previous model. Amazing right.

A first lesson in branding and marketing in the US will tell you about the phenomenon that erupted strongly in the 50s from the American car manufacturers GM,

Who discovered the weakness of the market for the subject. Find him research and for water write the books in the field. They would change Cadillac's headlights every year

And the grille on the front, move a letter in English and that is more or less the change and the main thing Cadillac 54 will be different from Cadillac 55.

And so every year they sold a new model to a huge group of customers who had to keep the last word in the parking lot near the house. It's their fun

And the show they do on the neighbors. Compare a lot of people like, more than you are aware of.

 

So what you have brought is an excellent example which is repeated in consumer areas among the buyers of "flagships". Flagship buyers are preferred

Their purchase not because of the cost or buying efficiency, but despite the cost. They have a strong desire and need to hold in their hand, the latest piece of ability

Having on the road. 

 

On this weakness of the target group in question, the consumer industry builds high-frequency repetitive sales,

Flag products, with one replacing the other at regular intervals. A group of engineers take care of removing the previous product each season,

Even with a cosmetic change and a new name, just to sell more. Read about it materials from the US, it's fascinating.

 

Sharing this opportunity that I have a friend, buys flagships of screen accelerators every generation anew, even if it's already a year later. No matter the price.

When they charged $ 250 a decade ago, that's what he spent. When they charged $ 1300 two years ago for 2080ti, that's what he did then.

And if they charge $ 3000, he promises to do it again. And the biggest thing - to move the punch line that you are not aware of:

He is in his 30s and does not play with his computer at all. is nothing. He's just running hawks for fun. This is his pleasure.

Why did Elijah then spend the money? After all, he can watch YouTube on YouTube.

His answer was that I wanted to and I should not be judged and thought of no one. 

In this he is right.

 

On a target audience like him who is a very large target audience from flagship products, Nvidia and many other companies in all areas of consumption, do one

From their major sources of income. The premium car industry is also built on a large group of such buyers.

Especially the BMW Bmws and the expensive Porsche and the like. These are not products that buyers are looking for value for their money

These are eye-popping status status products that are coming to address a very special hunger that befits the field. Mercedes and BMW have found that luxury vehicles

Their 7th and S-Class series, are replaced by dentures, averaging only 1-2 years. They bother every year to update something even symbolic

Yes, just to continue to support this need in the market.

I'm pretty much in Reddit (and also in nvidia's DC) and a very significant portion of the people who managed to get their hands on the 3080 upgraded from very old cards ... I think I may have seen just one post from someone who upgraded from the 2080TI.

People stormed this card because the value for the shekel he gives is enormous, not because it is the last word.

The fact that in the 2080TI there were no such inventory issues.

 

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Look at a graph I made a few days ago, the performance is just relative, let's say you can imagine that 

1.0 performance = 100 fps @  V

 

You can immediately see that the 3080 is not standard at all compared to the rest of the HIGHEND

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