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I'm desperate UNDERVOLTING does not take away from the ascension of the computer (90 degrees)


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The computer has a thin structure.

I have not yet tried to replace an ointment 

I just performed a stability test without UNDERVOLTING and the result is the same.

I read on the net that people with a model parallel to mine took it down.

 

 

 

Hi everyone, I did here as in the video at the bottom of the page :

 

These are the results :

 0.150 or .0.140 core voltage offset is set in XTU

The computer feels responsive faster in simple tasks.

cpu test pic 1.png

 

cpu test pic 2.png

 

 

Throttlestop

125- cache

125-offset voltage

 

cpu test 2 pic 1.png

 

cpu test 2 pic 2.png

 

 

 

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You do not see the pictures and accordingly it is not clear which computer it is.

It is not clear in what situations you are encountering warming.

It is recommended to run software like OCCT, preferably an old version (I like 5.4.2) where you can see a direct relationship between temperature and power consumption.

Such a processor when in full turbo boost may well reach 90 degrees.

This ointment replacement is AB. , This under volt in the area of ​​the S.T. .

 

The determination that 90 degrees is too much is not necessarily correct, it depends on the model of the computer, it may be that it is designed to allow the processor to get there in order to provide high performance. 

The question is whether it gets there at a load of 35 watts, 45 watts or a turbo of 67 can be seen according to OCCT  

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You do not see the pictures and accordingly it is not clear which computer it is.

It is not clear in what situations you are encountering warming.

It is recommended to run software like OCCT, preferably an old version (I like 5.4.2) where you can see a direct relationship between temperature and power consumption.

Such a processor when in full turbo boost may well reach 90 degrees.

This ointment replacement is AB. , This under volt in the area of ​​the S.T. .

 

The determination that 90 degrees is too much is not necessarily correct, it depends on the model of the computer, it may be that it is designed to allow the processor to get there in order to provide high performance. 

The question is whether it gets there at a load of 35 watts, 45 watts or a turbo of 67 can be seen according to OCCT  

When I posted the discussion, the pictures worked and then really suddenly stopped working, but now they are displayed again. Can you please address them?

the computer : https://www.notebookcheck.net/MSI-P65-Creator-8RF-442.413532.0.html

Look I've just posted the discussion before :

 

From the reactions I realized that my computer is at too high a temperature.

By and large in stressful situations - I just tried to check it out - that it's OK.

Where can I get version 5.4.2 of OCCT? From a reliable source 

If I replace an ointment for example with this as the guy in the screenshot suggested  :https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-Grease-Paste/dp/B011F7W3LU

Here is a guy who has a model similar to mine (i.e. in terms of structure and hardware) and he wrote it :
 

 

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Will it work for me too?

 

 

 

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Bios updated?

Yes and I'm sorry I did, since I updated the latest version from the manufacturer's MSI website

Then I updated the hard drive, the computer fans worked like crazy - even in the bot itself.

And their ideal state was 2800 after the update and before 1800. I managed to get my hands on the previous hard and as soon as I lowered and the fans returned to ideal state i.e. 1800-2000rpm but when I am still in the new BIOS the CPU is constantly straining and hearing the fans working even there is only surfing of In the background and not something intense.

Before the upgrade of the BIOS and Tough, the computer worked just fine except for one "issue" related to the display (I thought the upgrade was supposed to solve this)

 

You have no idea if this is a reliable source :

https://www.bios-downloads.com/product/msi-p65-creator-8rf-white-limited-edition-bios/

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The pictures still do not work.

In my opinion the problem is that the thermal grease has lost its capabilities because it has dried or because a gap has been created there.

If there is no good conductivity between the CPU and the check then no combo will help.

 

You do not have to buy the above even though it is really high quality, the mx-4 2019 version that can be bought in the country will do the job. 

 

Your computer is really a bit difficult to maintain, if you disassemble alone then first thing you will disconnect .

If you choose to put him in a lab, make sure they put quality grease, one that they know to tell you his name and its conductivity.

 

I looked at the previous discussion. The temperature there seems too high. 

When you want to adopt a processor in AIDA then you run FPU only. Make sure it is set to update a graph every 1 second.

Years I work with AIDA but about from 8th generation on laptops (like yours) I get a bit exaggerated results there so I switched to OCCT and I prefer a version that gives a snapshot of temp in relation to power consumption. In 5.4.2 you see it beautifully 

You can download from here :

https://www.filehorse.com/download-occt/44137/

It's reliable.

If you do not trust it then download an update from the official website and skip between the POWER and TMP columns.

 

 

 

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The pictures still do not work.

In my opinion the problem is that the thermal grease has lost its capabilities because it has dried or because a gap has been created there.

If there is no good conductivity between the CPU and the check then no combo will help.

 

You do not have to buy the above even though it is really high quality, the mx-4 2019 version that can be bought in the country will do the job. 

 

Your computer is really a bit difficult to maintain, if you disassemble alone then first thing you will disconnect battery .

If you choose to put him in a lab, make sure they put quality grease, one that they know to tell you his name and its conductivity.

 

I looked at the previous discussion. The temperature there seems too high. 

When you want to adopt a processor in AIDA then you run FPU only. Make sure it is set to update a graph every 1 second.

Years I work with AIDA but about from 8th generation on laptops (like yours) I get a bit exaggerated results there so I switched to OCCT and I prefer a version that gives a snapshot of temp in relation to power consumption. In 5.4.2 you see it beautifully 

You can download from here :

https://www.filehorse.com/download-occt/44137/

It's reliable.

If you do not trust it then download an update from the official website and skip between the POWER and TMP columns.

 

 

 

The pictures only you know about me are presented in the discussion properly :
Here are the first 2 :

 

0.150 or .0.140 core voltage offset is set in XTU

The computer feels responsive faster in simple tasks.

https://imgur.com/a/D4pmXNG

 

The last 2 

Throttlestop

125- cache

125-offset voltage

https://imgur.com/a/Teq3fc0

 

This can also happen with the computer That has less than a week of use? Because in general I got it around the end of January and used it very little.

I understand but I will order it from Amazon if it is really high quality because I have no pressure I do not use the above computer almost at all.

Yeah Al that sounds pretty crap to me, Looks like BT aint for me either. 

 

I did a stress test in OCCT and the temperature did not exceed 86 degrees and it was about 35W 

But look here I have compared the CPUID software - 91 degree mirror and OCCT mirror 86

And just do not know how significant it is but the case of the computer on the outside between the keyboard and the screen is really not hot also the air coming out of the ventilation openings on the side is not hot!

https://imgur.com/a/Wkea0Zm

By the way thank you very much for the help.

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As for the temperature, I estimate that the OCCT is a circle of corners.

 

If the air that comes out is not hot then either the system is clogged (but then also no air is felt at all) or there is no heat conduction.

Is there no heat transfer due to an ointment level problem or a heat sink level problem? You will know only after changing ointment.

The rib level problem is typical only of very old computers that worked for a long time when the system was completely clogged and caused the Molecular loss of the material inside the HEAT PIPE. Not common and certainly not typical of a new computer. 

As long as we learn to swim by correspondence, I do not sign anything here or there. Hence and accordingly the use of the phrase "heat dissipation problem". 

 

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As for the temperature, I estimate that the OCCT is a circle of corners.

 

If the air that comes out is not hot then either the system is clogged (but then also no air is felt at all) or there is no heat conduction.

Is there no heat transfer due to an ointment level problem or a heat sink level problem? You will know only after changing ointment.

The rib level problem is typical only of very old computers that worked for a long time when the system was completely clogged and caused the Molecular loss of the material inside the HEAT PIPE. Not common and certainly not typical of a new computer. 

As long as we learn to swim by correspondence, I do not sign anything here or there. Hence and accordingly the use of the phrase "heat dissipation problem". 

 

Acceptable ! Thank you very much for your help ,

I will replace the ointment and update.

 

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intel Extreme tuning utility

Displays thermal Throttle?

Straight or after a few minutes of running heavy software?

Unfortunately in a few seconds :

 

Update Now I just noticed you asked about running a software and not a stress test, can you guide me how to do it? I mean where do you see the background monitoring with the XTU?

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Should be at the bottom of the software

 

 

I ran a game, which utilized 20 percent of the CPU and I think at first there was YES under thermal throttle the temperature was between 80 to 92 degrees end 

By the way after about 15 minutes of playing that stuck fans working hard the CPU is utilized something like 40 percent on nothing already for 20 minutes 

 

What is this SYSTEM?

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