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New processor for Intel 10100F


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We all sell the regular 10100 processor, which costs $ 120 MSRP, and it sells in Israel for around NIS 510.

This is a 4-core processor with HT enabled, which is currently, for the mass consumer, considered one of the most value for money processors.

Game titles that need more than 8 threads have not yet been released to the market, so choosing such a processor does not cause any noticeable compromise, for now.

 

But Intel is currently launching the same processor, without a built-in graphics card, at a cheaper price of around $ 80-100 per consumer only.

They give up the built-in graphics card, which is not necessary for gaming computers, since in these computers the consumer attaches anyway. 

A dedicated graphics card for games, so the function of the built-in graphics accelerator is relevant.

 

This is a welcome line, the aforesaid is expected to lower the price to the consumer in the country to the area of ​​350-420 NIS, a rough order of magnitude,

Which will give Intel another strong product in their tough competition against , Which is currently positioning itself in the premium territory,

While Intel positions itself in the value territory and does a not bad job at all one might say.

 

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/203473/intel-core-i3-10100f-processor-6m-cache-up-to-4-30-ghz.html

 

https://www.pcmag.com/news/intel-launches-budget-friendly-core-i3-10100f

 

Intel Launches Budget-Friendly i3-10100F

The quad- chip is sure to be a hit with gamers on a tight budget who do not need an integrated GPU

 

I am very much in favor and of course happy about the move.

 

 

 

 

 

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^by db creid right,

When the price step in the required increase for a 6-core processor is cut in practice Doubling the price For a $ 200 dialing area,

So it is definitely a very relevant consideration to choose 4 cores.

 

For paying double ($ 200 versus just $ 100) for another 50% cores .... which are still not reflected in practice today

The gameplay anyway, does not come out who knows what is lucrative or wise. And certainly will not be reflected on the desktop regardless.

Moreover, if the consumer price of a 10100F processor is only $ 80 (as Intel advertises in its MSRP option),

So how much more ...

 

Only when the prices of the 6-core processors return to the $ 150-160 dialing range (as it was until recently), will the business be worthwhile again.

Hopefully in the coming months.

 

Let us note that when the load in games is in any case imposed on the graphics accelerator and not on the processor, and this is how it is in practical reality,

The performance gaps that the 10100 processor places compared to the top 10900K, are really zero:

 

relative-performance-games-38410-2160.png

 

 

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If it's for something temporary ... a few years round

How many years is it "temporary" 😁?

 

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His low-cost castrated processor I would not buy

 

As said, for games I would buy. Obviously there are applications that require more, and for work (mine at least) I would not buy. But it seems to me that @nec_000 The opener of the discussion talked about games:

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They give up the built-in graphics card, which you will not needGaming computers, Since in these computers the consumer attaches anyway 

A dedicated graphics card for games, so the function of the built-in graphics accelerator is relevant.

 

 

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For games? Why?

Because when these sites do benches it's about a clean operating system that they have now uploaded from some image on the disk. There is nothing installed except their test tools and games. This is far from being the state of an average system where another nice number of are activated At the same time, and chrome that remains open with a few dozen tabs, etc ...

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Also for games I would not buy another year or two years this processor will be like I5 4460 with 6 megabytes of cash

 

  

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How many years is it "temporary" 😁?

 

I mean 2-3 years

 

 

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4-core processor for games? not recommended!

Why? Out of thinking about the future. Even if Right now 4 cores is enough, the processor will age faster than a 6-core processor. The improvement in support for the multiplicity of processes of game engines built is clearly seen Exclusive With DX12. If the game also has support for the DX11 then the engine is still built on a single rendering process and does not enjoy the improvement that the DX12 has to offer.

 

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His low-cost castrated processor I would not buy

If it's for something temporary ... a few years round

 

Obviously, since when do you buy computer hardware, out of thought / belief, which is for a long time?

Or will it withstand the developments in the field ...?

 

Computer usually and usually buy, for short sprints of 2-3 years of order, and see after that what a child a day.

 

If today from a child (in 2-3 years) a completely new technological generation which bounces the performance significantly, and of course there is also a need

In this performance in our practice with the computer, then upgrade again. And if you do not need them in practice, then do not upgrade

Until the need was really born for us. At each junction the issue is re-examined.

 

For example, the group of consumers (of which I happen to be one) with 2500k / 2600k processors from 2011, note that they have already gone through 3 beats

Of such 3 years (total 9) because we are already in 2020, and despite the development that has taken place in the field of computing, still, from the practical point of view

Practically useful in the computer, we do not need to upgrade to our uses which are computer Home, office / desk, which 99% of the time

Spends all of it on the desktop, and maybe 1% of the time, used for a simulator / game.

 

Moreover, even with 1% of the time it is properly loaded in the game / simulator, it turns out that the FPS we get from the computer does not fall

From a 10900K processor, because again, what is blocking our FPS is not the processor, but the Garpi accelerator that ran out of air first.

And so it always has been, it's no surprise to anyone. 

 

Only as soon as there is a game / simulator that we edit is used, and we realize that even though we have set a graphic load that suits our requirements from the app,

The graphics accelerator fails to exhaust itself and the processor suffocates in front of us, and that the FPS is too low, only then will we understand that the processor needs to be upgraded at last.

Or in this case, virtually the entire platform, because beyond modern technology actually cuts + Processor + (As a minimum).

 

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4-core processor for games? not recommended!

Why? Out of thinking about the future. Even if Right now 4 cores is enough, the processor will age faster than a 6-core processor. The improvement in support for the multiplicity of processes of game engines built is clearly seen Exclusive With DX12. If the game also has support for the DX11 then the engine is still built on a single rendering process and does not enjoy the improvement that the DX12 has to offer.

 

 

This is a question of money, after all friends, that we will not miss the point:

If for example you have to spend $ 200 for a 6-core processor instead of just $ 80 for a 4-core processor, just for the sake of the calculative example right now yes,

So when it comes to thinking that choosing 6 cores will "save" us the next upgrade, though Ignoring From the $ 120 they can put aside ...

In fact, these are $ 120 that will be saved for the benefit of the next upgrade, so we made (probably) an economic calculation mistake.

** Not to mention that the $ 120 can swell nicely through their investment and be more than $ 120 in the future. Do not ignore it.

 

want to say,

That probably the wise plan would be to be content now, with the purchase of what will be good and satisfy us today, and the surplus we saved

Keep aside and invest. Only when more computational power is required in practical practice, only then do the upgrade, ie in a few years

When that will happen (do not know yet).

 

By the way, once that happens, who assures us at all that 6 hearts it will provide? Maybe this will be a jump straight to 8? Maybe for 16? 

It is not possible to predict today what the computational power requirements will be from our computer in the future. When these fall on us they will fall according to what may be

The standard at the time.

 

Another mental direction:

Our attempt to guess today - what the future will require of us, and try to buy today the capabilities of the future, but at today's prices (which are still expensive)

Here is a strategic mistake. It is wise to buy the capabilities of the future in the future, but at future prices - which will be significantly cheaper than today.

 

At the pace of renewed competition between Intel and And the arms race for who will provide more cores to the dollar in his processor, can be estimated with reasonable care,

That in 3 years, 8-core processors with HT will go up as today 4-core processors with HT go up.

For example, you can look at what has happened to the market since 2017 - at that time Request around $ 300-350 on its 4-core processors with HT.

7700 series for those who forgot. When Risen's entry into the arena caused us to have 4 cores with HT dropped in price to a $ 100 dialing area only!

This is a decrease of at least a third of the price that was then, if not to a quarter. Assuming the 10100F processor sells for only $ 80 then yes, that's quite a quarter.

 

Today the octagonal cores cost in the region of $ 300-450 (Risen 5800X pulled the range up a bit, since without it it is only $ 300-350).

This means that there is reasonable optimism that the price of the octagonal cores will also fall in 3 years to a third. Or even a quarter (holding fingers)

It all depends on the competition in the market and the industry that is responsible for the product layer.

 

In a situation like this, whoever can buy an octagonal heart in the region of $ 2023 in 100, will be a little upset that he bought a hexagon for $ 200 in 2020.

Especially when he did not really use the abilities of the hexagon in those last 3 years, but remembered, that he acquired them in case ... as a preparation for the future.

And now the future has come for him, and he is cheaper than he bought it before. Then he dropped the token.

 

 

 

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Because when these sites do benches it's about a clean operating system that they have now uploaded from some image on the disk. There is nothing installed except their test tools and games. This is far from being the state of an average system where another nice number of are activated Apps At the same time, and chrome that remains open with a few dozen tabs, etc ...

 

So now the recommendation to stock up on excess computing power and make the payment of money for this capability, is to compensate for

Laziness to close open applications ?!

 

 

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No. Not just open applications (word, photoshop, etc.) things like the programmable mouse software, the software that controls the rgb, the antivirus (you can be sure they eliminate the defender and many other parts of the operating system for these tests), bittotrrent client and a thousand other things that people install.

In addition, spend money on convenience. That each will make his own judgment. If it's a turn to close everything that's open to you on the computer every time you play, and you never make an alt tab and move a moment to some , Sabba. You are special and can settle for a quad-core processor provided you do not immediately install things running in the background.

I want to work on the computer without starting to reckon with whether it's a spin to leave the tabs open or I need to close three of them for the game to work a spin for me.

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