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A serious question about hardware prices in the country


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It is true that the prices here are very high for a lot of computer products and it is always said (me too) that the stores are just exaggerating 

My question is if you think this is so because there is no demand for these products in the country (because there is not a large audience for expensive gaming products or 144HZ 2K screens for example) then the stores must exaggerate the price to compensate for a small number of sales? Or because there is simply no real competition? Because today everyone has moved more to mobile and computers And because of this must raise prices?

 

for example 3080 sold in Israel for over 4000 NIS .. Of course there are taxes but all prices are expensive here even after calculating the tax, that's why I ask

 

 

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The thing with the 3080 is that the importer has to cover all his expenses, but he barely gets it , So he rolls the spending on consumers, if there was less shortage prices would go down faster.
And the prices in Israel are not higher than elsewhere in most things (that you look at prices in the US Amazon it is without taxes and even there you pay taxes that you order) and sometimes even cheaper.

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If you think this is because there is no demand for these products in the country (because there is no large audience for expensive gaming products or 144HZ 2K screens for example) then the stores must exaggerate the price to compensate for the small number of sales? Or because there is simply no real competition? Because today everyone has moved more to mobile and computers Mobile And because of this must raise prices?

Both this and this and this and that.

 

And you will be surprised, but there are categories of computer / electronics products whose price in Israel is not high at all compared to Europe / USA.

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Both this and this and this and that.

 

And you will be surprised, but there are categories of computer / electronics products whose price in Israel is not high at all compared to Europe / USA.

Explain to me how the hell 5900X in the country costs as much as 5950X in the US

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Explain to me how the hell 5900X in the country costs as much as 5950X in the US

I think you're ignoring the fact that even in the US people have to pay taxes they order, the prices of the new processors of In the country very fair.

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Unlike in the country, and also in Europe, in the US no final prices are presented, but prices without VAT. The prices you see on sites like Or Niuag Are not the final prices for a US consumer, Depending on the country in which he lives. The consumer should add to this price the local tax of the area in which he resides. If he lives in a place with 0% tax (VAT), he will not pay anything, if he lives in a place with 20% tax, he will pay 20%.

What the American (and Canadian) consumer certainly does gain is a very cheap shipping cost within North America.

 

I have been to Europe quite a few times in recent years, in many countries. I think easily something like 10. I always go into local electronics stores and get by on things like monitors, mice, computers , Cell phones, and more. I can tell you that cell phones are almost always cheaper in the country, and as for other things, the prices are + - at the same level, depending on the store, One way or another, and so on.

 

So your statement is just not true. That is, at least not in a sweeping way.

 

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Having said that all, 

Yes, Israel is a kind of "island". We speak a language used only here, we do not enjoy the logistics network of the North American or European continent, we do not have here All-American or All-European who enjoy a size advantage - and with that we have to live. 

Precisely electronics / computers is one of the areas in which it is less pronounced. In my opinion this is more significantly reflected in food.

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I guess you understand the subject better than I do.

But just for the sake of comparison about 4 products I got to check out:

1. Mi Band 5 - cost me about 105 NIS from AliExpress. In Israel twice as much.

2. Webcam What I saw on AliExpress for NIS 40 cost me four times as much in Israel.

3. Huion H610PRO V2 graphics board - in Israel at KSP for NIS 420. At Amazon with home delivery for about NIS 210.

And KSP's service and warranty are not worth an extra shekel to the price.

4. A York training sofa (not related to computers) in Canada costs less than $ 100, in Israel it costs NIS 1,300. Yes, there is a shipping cost. Does that justify a price 4 times higher? I don't know

 

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I guess you understand the subject better than I do.

But just for the sake of comparison about 4 products I got to check out:

1. To be accurate Mi Band 5 - cost me about 105 NIS from AliExpress. In Israel twice as much.

2. Webcam אינטרנט What I saw on AliExpress for NIS 40 cost me four times as much in Israel.

3. Huion H610PRO V2 graphics board - in Israel at KSP for NIS 420. At Amazon with home delivery for about NIS 210.

And KSP's service and warranty are not worth an extra shekel to the price.

4. A York training sofa (not related to computers) in Canada costs less than $ 100, in Israel it costs NIS 1,300. Yes, there is a shipping cost. Does that justify a price 4 times higher? I don't know

 

Most of the products are shipped from third world countries where there is a low turnover so the products around locals are expensive but cheap for those who are not.

The cost of storage in Israel costs thousands of shekels, taxes that need to be paid at the time of sale / purchase, which means you need to have money and a lot.

That is why things are expressed in justice and unjustly at high prices to the consumer.

Instead of concentrating tomorrow on the Hulk products that have broken records at low prices for a long time, concentrate on food prices.

It seems reasonable to you that they produce a blue and white product, it is sent to a foreign country, there is a cost of storage and local taxes as well as external taxes, and their market share is small from the country and yet they are sold there most cheaply from here. Sweeping economic irrationality.

What is actually done is language in the country pay a lot for little, and are sent to apply products sometimes at a loss or not and the lot we pay in the country covers some of their losses there.
And if you are still not convinced and you want to protest, set up one against this despicable thing called "contracting / franchising". And I will not expand on how cunning this thing is.

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That is why things are expressed in justice and unjustly at high prices to the consumer.

 

I have no problem getting them, but when:

First option is to go to KSP, spend an hour on getting there and another hour on a purchase and pay 2X when their warranty also does not exist (they drive me crazy on two products I bought from them. One of them I already had to buy another product from Ivory because correspondence with their customer service Two weeks).

Compared to ordering from abroad to home

 

I prefer the second option.

The only reason for me to purchase in the country is the issue of warranty, but the service providers in the country are so bad.

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Aliexpress is something else. It can not be compared to a store or Physically, neither in Israel nor in other countries.

 

Warranty in Israel is important for large / heavy / complex products that are not reasonably possible to send abroad and that are expensive enough to justify the warranty issue. Up to two months.

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That they are expensive enough to justify the matter of liability.

 

But that's exactly the problem. Responsibility in Israel is not respected.

At best you are treated after your soul is taken out and at worst you are not treated. In 90% of cases you will not be satisfied and will not fulfill the warranty.

 

And that includes quite a few companies. Unfortunately I was not very lucky with the purchase of cell phones.

I bought a cell phone from a certain large network and it arrived defective. Sent to their lab for two weeks and they confirmed it. They gave me the option of a refund or taking a new product. I took a new cell phone and it also came faulty. Was sent to their lab and confirmed he had arrived malfunctioning. I realized it was better to buy from somewhere else. I asked for a refund. They refused on the grounds that 14 days had passed since the original date of purchase. I claimed they offered me a refund and if I had bought a new cell phone from them on the refund the same day I replaced the cell phone it had not been 14 days since it was received until I returned it to the store (funny they claim it was 14 days when it was first in their lab alone over 14 days ). Only after a lawsuit and a threat in a small lawsuit did they agree to return the money to me.

 

Another cell phone I bought from a large network, after 3-4 days the charger exploded and some of its metal that connects to the socket melts. All sorts of problems started with the cell phone and it would suddenly shut down and lose 20-30% of the battery. It was sent 5 times for repair and all the times was not repaired. I asked for a refund or receipt of a new device and was refused (I talked to their customer service lots of times). I filed a small claim and then they agreed to return the device or return my money + small compensation. I refused and went to court with them and they lost the lawsuit.

Everything in this country is a successful method. After all, two days ago I asked you to replace your cell phone without asking for compensation and you refused. Only when they realized it would go to court did they decide they were ready to replace.

 

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In such cases I wish everyone in the country would behave like you and go to small claims, maybe the companies here would get some kind of service consciousness.

On the other hand, if all they get (as in your story) after a lawsuit is just the purely refund amount with no fine or compensation from the company, it is very clear why they will continue to take their outrageous approach, since they do not stop at anything when they are dragged into a lawsuit.

 

Did you not receive anything other than refunds? No compensation for the harassment caused to you to go to court? Aggravation? something?

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