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Will RTX 4000 be seen as early as 2021?


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No one mines עם There are dedicated ASICs for this, they are ethreum miners and the like that it does not seem possible to produce for them a suitable ASIC that will be better than video cards.

And I always laugh at people who would not buy from mining as if it were some kind of physical device that has wear and tear, at most a fan replacement.

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But if I remember correctly, when it came to the mainstream the issue of mining with , Nawdihi and AMD changed their warranty terms from X years to X working hours under 100% effort.
That means there is probably something at play in the core.
I do not know what and do not know if this is true but the very fact that they changed the responsibility to address the use of mining indicates something not?

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See the caveman's answer.

In addition to my estimation the manufacturers do not want to give a warranty on the card if the use they make is not for the original purpose for which it is intended,

Not sitting inside a tidy computer for example and properly protected. Some are replacing BIOS with MacCustom and more. Why do they have these troubles?

They have reduced the warranty to 3 months for your question, instead of 1 year.

Not that they have the option to verify what you did with the card, and if they were to refuse responsibility to the consumer, it is likely that in court they would lose

For the benefit of the customer. As long as they have not found physical or other damage that proves that they have created malicious or negligent damage to the card.

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Do you mean they have a logger in the product, designed to track down some parameters they are tracking, in order to know what they did

In the product, and whether what they did is in the area of ​​disclaimer. If there is such a thing (logger) they may keep it a secret, if only to prevent it

From consumers the knowledge about it, in order to prevent the consumer from messing with this blogger and disrupting its contents. 

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You took it far.
SMART does not talk to anyone .
So true he does not know how a process activated any action but that is not the goal.

It's not such a story that the core will tell itself how long it has been working 100% since it was created (or since it left the factory), how long it has been working 100% recently (to test with how usage has changed over time - indicative of gaming as opposed to mining running at 100 % All day all the time), how long since she left the factory, same as for VRAM usage, RT usage, voltages, frequencies, etc. No need For this, the core counts for itself.

One can go with it to the extreme and once the core detects use for mining, it locks.
But of course it will not happen in life because 1. it is illegal (they did not forbid this use it in advance before buying).
And 2. It really does not interest them. On the contrary, the mining market pays them more because these are people who are willing to pay more money for the same hardware than (Who do not make money from the hardware)

So true, SMART metrics can be faked (relatively easily) but on the other hand SMART is Pretty old. It's not a problem to implement an encryption mechanism on this logger that only a licensed developer can change things in (or something more sophisticated that exists today)

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You took it far.
SMART does not talk to anyone Operating System.
So true he does not know how a process activated any action but that is not the goal.

It's not such a story that the core will tell itself how long it has been working 100% since it was created (or since it left the factory), how long it has been working 100% recently (to test with how usage has changed over time - indicative of gaming as opposed to mining running at 100 % All day all the time), how long since she left the factory, same as for VRAM usage, RT usage, voltages, frequencies, etc. No need Operating System For this, the core counts for itself.

One can go with it to the extreme and once the core detects use for mining, it locks.
But of course it will not happen in life because 1. it is illegal (they did not forbid this use it in advance before buying).
And 2. It really does not interest them. On the contrary, the mining market pays them more because these are people who are willing to pay more money for the same hardware than Gamers (Who do not make money from the hardware)

So true, SMART metrics can be faked (relatively easily) but on the other hand SMART is Technology Pretty old. It's not a problem to implement an encryption mechanism on this logger that only a licensed developer can change things in (or something more sophisticated that exists today)

What if I use a model to train models?

What if I use the card for one of the projects like folding at home?

 

These are just two examples of uses that can put your card at 100% over a very long period of time.

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But then they might argue, that it's not the use for which the "gaming" card is intended, and therefore it violates warranty.

In fact the manufacturer classifies the field for home gaming, and professional work.

 

Accordingly they thicken the professional card to be adapted for work which is 24/7 under full load,

In addition, the working frequencies are lowered to work off-edge. Similar to server processors.

 

Quadro cards / those designed for AI machines and the like, work on much lower and more conservative clocks,

The working temperature is low, the cooling systems are heavy duty double ball bearing as is customary in the 24/7 industry.

 

Then they will be able to reply that if you are working on a card for non-gaming needs but continuous and long processing / calculation work,

Buy the line of their appropriate products. 

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What the NEC said is true but my intention was of a LOAD of coin mining to have a specific PATTERN that can be surpassed and responded to accordingly. Whether it's lock the core completely, or even put in idle cycles to slow down the mining operation and make the cards less efficient and thus cause miners to lose interest in the video cards themselves and look for other hardware (maybe ASIC dedicated to each coin? Don't know).

I throw away ideas that come to me after 5 minutes of thought .... I'm sure if really someone out there had devoted serious thought and resources to it, they would have ended up with this shit already in the next generation. But like I said it will never happen because they just do not care.
The only chance is if the gaming community will make enough noise to get Nvidia to respond to the issue and do something.
But that requires another dominant player right now Is in the right direction but still not 100% there.
In processors it is completely there. In GPU not yet.

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