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Stationary computer for gaming up to NIS 11,000


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1. What is the maximum budget? Is there an exception if necessary?

Up to 11,000 can be exceeded if necessary.

 

2. What useful computer (games, graphic editing, office work, HD content, for example), is there a specific example of a game or software?

Mostly games, movie watching and home use.

 

3. Is there a need for peripherals in addition to the computer (for example: keyboard, mouse, speakers And screen)?

No, there is a 34 screen.
Maybe if possible, a recommendation for a comfortable keyboard. nothing special.

 

4. Is there a basic component that does not need to be included in the specification? (Eg Drive SSD Which already exists and can be added to the assembly)

There are two hard drives of 1TB each.
One internal and one external.

 

5. How important is silent computer operation? 

Do not think particularly relevant.

 

6. Is there a limit or preference for the physical size and weight of the computer, lights, etc.?

No.

 

7. Is there a need to include an OS / Office (preferably a preferred version) and / or a computer in the store?

Only assembly.

 

8. Is there a preference to purchase the computer from a specific store? If you can not specify a residential area.

A place that will give the best price for the specification.

 

9. When is the purchase of the computer planned (it is highly recommended to request a short specification from the time of purchase)?

Soon, as soon as I close on what I want.

 

10. Are there any special requests regarding ports and connections (eg USB Type-C or FireWire) or overclocking?

No.

 

11. Is there any peripherals that will be connected? If so, which one? (Docking station if computers Mobile \ One screen or another)

Screen 34 IPS of .

keyboard.

mouse.

speakers.

other .

 

12. Additional notes, detailed and miscellaneous details:

Requests that the computer be grounded .
I would like to Of 1TB.
32GB RAM seems to me enough.
By and large, here on the website in the Recommended Computers section is the gaming computer:
Computer based gaming and overclocking i9 10900K and 3080 Ti


So I would like something similar to it of course depending on my budget.

 

Thank you very much for the helpers!

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Processor: 1529 NIS - * Sale * - Ten i9 10900F 2.8Ghz-5.2Ghz S1200 Tray
Cooling Water Processor: 358 ₪ - MasterLiquid ML240L V2 ARGB
Motherboard: 572 ₪ - TUF B560M-PLUS GAMING
Memory: 810 NIS - XPG 32G (2x16G) 3200Mhz CL16 GAMMIX D30 BLACK
Video card: 4990 NIS - * Assembling a system * - ZOTAC RTX3080 10GB Up To 1725Mhz TRINITY OC LHR
Hard disk: 602 NIS - WD Black 1T SN750 R / W Up To 3470 / 3000MB / s 5 Year Warranty
Power supply: 590 NIS - * new * - 850W 80+ GOLD MODULAR - 10 YEAR Warranty 
Case: 394 ₪ - NX800

Final price: cash / bank transfer: 9845 
For credit: up to 12 payments 10041 ₪ or 36 payments 10238 ₪
Specifications from startpc, the 10900 will give about the same performance in games as the 10900K and if you do not want to play with OC there is really no reason to invest more.
If you need wifi \ bluetooth you can upgrade to the same tablet with connectivity for another ~ 70 shekels.

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Hey

Thanks,

 

I liked what you suggested,

I built a specification based on your offer.

The only thing that "bothered" me was the memory . Less like XPG, but I have no real alternative on their site, other than to take 8GBX4's .

 

I would love to hear your opinion and is there anything you would change?

 

Processor: 2169 NIS - Ten i9 10900K 3.7Ghz-5.3Ghz S1200 Tray
Cooling Water Processor: 775 ₪ - KRAKEN X62 Water Cooling
Motherboard: 666 ₪ - TUF B560-PLUS GAMING WI-FI
Memory: 810 NIS - XPG 32G (2x16G) 3200Mhz CL16 GAMMIX D30 BLACK
Video card: 5160 NIS - * Sale on computer assembly * - RTX3080 10GB GAMING OC LHR
Hard Disk: 850 ₪ - 1T 970 EVO PLUS R / W 3,500MB / s / 3,300MB / s 5 Year Warranty
Power Supply: 620 ₪ - 850W HCG-850M 80 + GOLD Full Modular High Current Gamer
Case: 394 ₪ - NX800

Final price: cash / bank transfer: 11444 
For credit: up to 12 payments 11672 ₪ or 36 payments 11901 ₪

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There is a problem with Gigabyte's power supplies.

They may catch fire.

Another company is recommended.

Why do not you check a little before you write? The power I chose is excellent and manufactured by a company completely different than the P850GM which is the problematic one.

(And for that matter the vendor I put in is the vendor used in gamer's In their test rig).
 

 

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Hey

Thanks,

 

I liked what you suggested,

I built a specification based on your offer.

The only thing that "bothered" me was the memory RAM. Less like XPG, but I have no real alternative on their site, other than to take 8GBX4's Kingston.

 

I would love to hear your opinion and is there anything you would change?

 

Processor: 2169 NIS - Ten Core i9 10900K 3.7Ghz-5.3Ghz Comet Lake S1200 Tray
Cooling Water Processor: 775 ₪ - NZXT KRAKEN X62 Water Cooling
Motherboard: 666 ₪ - ASUS TUF B560-PLUS GAMING WI-FI
Memory: 810 NIS - XPG 32G (2x16G) DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 GAMMIX D30 BLACK
Video card: 5160 NIS - * Sale on computer assembly * - GIGABYTE GeForce RTX3080 10GB GAMING OC LHR
Hard Disk: 850 ₪ - Samsung 1T 970 EVO PLUS NVMe R / W 3,500MB / s / 3,300MB / s 5 Year Warranty
Power Supply: 620 ₪ - Antec 850W HCG-850M 80 + GOLD Full Modular High Current Gamer
Case: 394 ₪ - Antec NX800

Final price: cash / bank transfer: 11444 
For credit: up to 12 payments 11672 ₪ or 36 payments 11901 ₪

Why force throw money? If you are not going to do OC for what 10900K especially you take a board that locks it anyway, the cooling is also completely excessive and unusually expensive.
This gigabyte video card comes with thermal pads made of chewing gum and I would not recommend anyone to buy it, what's more the cooling performance is not particularly good even if you replace the pads.

It is not clear to me what the obsession of people with של , Extraordinarily expensive for no difference in use, the disc I put for you is significantly cheaper and there is no way you can differentiate between the two.

The power is excellent, but the previous power was also excellent and there is really no need to replace it, contrary to what is said here.

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You did not refer to the cooling (of the processor), for some reason ...

In connection with a power supply -

What is certain, certain.

It is true that the power supplies of most companies are sticker products,

But for now, only those of Gigabyte are "enjoying" the label of ticking bombs.

So as long as there are equally good alternatives, you should take them.

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You did not refer to the cooling (of the processor), for some reason ...

In connection with a power supply -

What is certain, certain.

It is true that the power supplies of most companies are sticker products,

But for now, only those of Gigabyte are "enjoying" the label of ticking bombs.

So as long as there are equally good alternatives, you should take them.

Maybe stop writing things without checking them for even a second? There's no connection between the vendor I put in the problematic gigabyte provider- you're more than welcome to watch all that gamers Did include what they said about the other gigabyte vendors and include exactly that vendor they use in their testing system.

Do you think Gigabyte should be boycotted because of their conduct? Sabba, accept, but there is nothing to do with this supplier.

What do you want me to say about refrigeration besides? "The cooling is also completely excessive and unusually expensive. "?

Or are you talking about the cooling I put on? Which is more in the direction of worthwhile two exhaust fans up so you can also combine it with Cheap water, also it does not really need a computer that is not going to pass But for this budget people expect water cooling.

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That's it, that's exactly what I'm trying to do.

Just do not close on two things:

1) I understand I do not need a K processor.

On the other hand, F processors have 2.8ghz compared to 3.4ghz

I feel a big difference for a few hundred shekels more.

 

2) As for the screensaver, I feel that maybe I can settle for the 3070 or the 3070 TI.

Because it's not that I'm some Crazy, and it can drop a bit..but there are full of models that I do not really understand the differences between them.

like for instance:

You offered me the ZOTAC GeForce RTX3080 10GB Up To 1725Mhz TRINITY OC LHR

And I took in my specification the * - GIGABYTE GeForce RTX3080 10GB GAMING OC LHR

To me it's just similar to another company.

But from what you said, there is a difference of Between the models.

So even if I decide to go for the 3070 or the 3070 TI, I'm not closed on what to take. Go, because every store has completely different models.

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Processor: 1529 NIS - * Sale * - Ten Core i9 10900F 2.8Ghz-5.2Ghz Comet Lake S1200 Tray
Cooling Water Processor: 358 ₪ - Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 ARGB
Motherboard: 572 ₪ - ASUS TUF B560M-PLUS GAMING
Memory: 810 NIS - XPG 32G (2x16G) DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 GAMMIX D30 BLACK
Video card: 4990 NIS - * Assembling a system * - ZOTAC GeForce RTX3080 10GB Up To 1725Mhz TRINITY OC LHR
Hard disk: 602 NIS - WD Black 1T SN750 NVMe R / W Up To 3470 / 3000MB / s 5 Year Warranty
Power supply: 590 NIS - * new * - GIGABYTE AORUS 850W 80+ GOLD MODULAR - 10 YEAR Warranty 
Case: 394 ₪ - Antec NX800

Final price: cash / bank transfer: 9845 
For credit: up to 12 payments 10041 ₪ or 36 payments 10238 ₪
Specifications from startpc, the 10900 will give about the same performance in games as the 10900K and if you do not want to play with OC there is really no reason to invest more.
If you need wifi \ bluetooth you can upgrade to the same tablet with connectivity for another ~ 70 shekels.

You mentioned the specification from Startpc and I came across them. I am on purchase and considering checking them out, but have never purchased and I do not know what the level of service and reliability is. Do you have experience with them? Recommend?

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You mentioned the specification from Startpc and I came across them. I am on purchase and considering checking them out, but have never purchased and I do not know what the level of service and reliability is. Do you have experience with them? Recommend?

 

I have positive experience with them, both tangle and good TMS and reasonable KSP if you can diagnose the computer yourself.

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That's it, that's exactly what I'm trying to do.

Just do not close on two things:

1) I understand I do not need a K processor.

On the other hand, F processors have 2.8ghz compared to 3.4ghz The base clock is completely insignificant and in games the difference in performance is zero or zero if you play at 1440P or higher (these processors work in a way that they raise the frequency as long as the temperature is low enough and there is enough power [here are settings in BIOS But it is not really critical])

I feel a big difference for a few hundred shekels more.

 

2) As for the screensaver, I feel that maybe I can settle for the 3070 or the 3070 TI.

Because it's not that I'm some Gamer Crazy, and it can drop a bit..but there are full of models that I do not really understand the differences between them.

like for instance:

You offered me the ZOTAC GeForce RTX3080 10GB Up To 1725Mhz TRINITY OC LHR

And I took in my specification the * - GIGABYTE GeForce RTX3080 10GB GAMING OC LHR

To me it's just similar to another company. If you can supply a 3070 buy it (or rather buy a 3070TI that costs the same and better), but the specific model you chose is just not good and also more expensive, as one that had a 3080 GB I recommend you stay away, especially since the Zotak is cheaper.

But from what you said, there is a difference of Cooling Between the models.

So even if I decide to go for the 3070 or the 3070 TI, I'm not closed on what to take. Go, because every store has completely different models. In the end your budget fits 3080, if you want 3070 you can lower the budget to the 7500 area and also go down in the CPU to the 8-core processor.

Ultimately how much performance you want is what will determine what suits you, I personally think the buying hierarchy of In the country it is 3060TI then 3080 (or 3070TI if it is in the ~ 3600 ~) range 6900XT and at the end 3080TI, in my opinion the 3070 is not profitable today because the 3060TI is almost the same and costs significantly less, sometimes the 3070TI is worth it but it depends on the price at the same time. So if it's cheaper than the 3070 at only 3070-3080% it's not worth it at all.
For the budget you gave fits 3080, but usually smarter to lower the budget and save what is left to upgrade later two more generations of For example and enjoy good performance over a longer validity period.

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As for the CPU, maybe it's worth me to go for the KF of the newer generation? (11)

The gap is not large, although I know the 10th generation is considered more successful. Maybe this is true in terms of a future upgrade as you mentioned?

Does it change my M board choice?

 

The truth is that the M panel in general is the part I most do not understand.

Do not always understand what the difference is between the different compatibility of the boards

On the one hand I was told that it is very important to go for the arrangement with the Z, and preferably 590.

Let's just say in TMS for example, there are not these boards from Asus, only from . Does it matter?

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As for the CPU, maybe it's worth me to go for the KF of the newer generation? (11)

The gap is not large, although I know the 10th generation is considered more successful. Maybe this is true in terms of a future upgrade as you mentioned?

Does it change my M board choice?

 

The truth is that the M panel in general is the part I most do not understand.

Do not always understand what the difference is between the different compatibility of the boards

On the one hand I was told that it is very important to go for the arrangement with the Z, and preferably 590.

Let's just say in TMS for example, there are not these boards from Asus, only from GIGABYTE. Does it matter?

Pity your money, 10th generation is excellent and more satisfies you and there is no real reason to buy 11th generation for sure and certainly not K, if you really want 11th generation then if you find the 11700 at a good price (~ 1300) then it is a good option but there is no chance you can Feel the difference between it and 10700 at resolutions of 1440P and above.
This board is with an 11th generation chipset that supports both 11th and 10th generation, but will not support 12th generation so it is not that you will be able to upgrade the processor in the future no matter which processor you choose.

Who exactly told you that? He thinks you'll invest NIS 1000 in refrigeration and waste your time on OC that will not give you anything in games? Of benchmarks).
What are these "boards" B560 boards? By and large it does not really matter as long as the board is at a good enough level to supply the CPU with its power, in this respect gigabytes are usually very aggressive and also their cheaper boards will give enough power to the CPU, if you are not sure look for a review on the specific model you are looking at.

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