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Help with choosing a partial specification upgrade ("trinity"), budget about 2000 NIS


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Hi, everyone,

I have the following specification which is a few years old (has undergone occasional upgrades + the last one was a video card bought about a year ago, and still works great):

 

Intel (R) Core (TM) i7-6700K CPU @ 4.00GHz
Gigabyte Z170-HD3P-CF
Corsair 16GB DDR4
NVIDIA GTX 1660 SUPER

HD: Kingston 120GB SATA2
HD: 2TB 16MB SATA2

 

I want Upgrade it without buying a brand new computer, Z.A. Leave the sample screen (in addition, prices Expropriated during this period).

I'm not looking to assemble a high end computer, but more in the direction Replacing the trinity (Processor, And memory) for more modern hardware (and performance accordingly).

Budget around 2000 NIS, flexible (should also Quiet CPU).

 

I would be happy to help because I have no idea of ​​the severity of today (I once was a little on top of things ...)

Thanks in advance

 

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Not something special except that the kids play Call of Duty warzone either V (and soon the new one coming out ...).

As mentioned, by and large it drags fine but there is a bit of a slowness / lag every now and then I would be happy to "slip" them (because of performance, not because of network slowness).

By the way, the screen is P2419H with natural resolution 1920x1080.

 

Thanks

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ryzen 5-5600x Excellent but slightly expensive processor, about 1200 NIS before . Intermediate level board at about 400, 16GB fast at about 400 and another quality fan and you get to 2100-2200. 

If you go on The prices of memory boards and cooling remain similar but processors are cheaper.

The 10400f processor will give good value for the price, in a physical start it costs less than 700 NIS. And in the 800 you can get a 11400F name which is probably the ideal choice.

It is worth noting that the processors of Consume a lot of electricity today and if you go for this option you should purchase a slightly more expensive board with a good power supply.

 

In such a situation you can sell the old parts when in my opinion they will sell better as a complete computer with a case and supplier. (And maybe you have a destiny for them ...)

The same games you mentioned that take advantage of multi-cores thanks to the dx12 will overcome the congestion moments and the system will also be able to form the basis for a better video card in the future.

 

If you have no problem messing with exceptional options, there is an option to put Frankenstein processors on your board.

This requires an update to the hack bios you get from the Chinese.

You can ask for it from the store before purchasing to see if you can install it without a problem - recommended with the software embedded in the BIOS. 

Since this is a gigabyte board with Email Bios, the option to go back to the previous Bios always exists if you got a bad Bios.

Experience says that the bios they send are bios that have already received positive feedback from customers and are working properly. 

Then assemble a mobile processor board that has been adapted to the board.

If you do not do OC then you can get along with Normal, if so do liquid metal because the core is exposed.

It's less powerful than new processors but the market is currently undergoing unclear changes and it could buy you two years of quiet as these Which match in power to the video card. 

See video here :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0JVKdkkMmk

 

 

I recommend not purchasing QS processors but With a formal name. 

i9-9980hk if you want 8 cores, about 620 NIS from Ali Express. It is a processor that even surpasses the power of the video card 

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003065821446.html

i5-9300h for 6 cores for 375 NIS.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003227324853.html

 

When even a 6-core processor will solve your problem in the above games.

It is advisable to check that your memories are as the Chinese recommend. 

The service in this store is very non-Chinese and among other things it is possible to return for no reason within 90 days.

 

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ryzen 5-5600x Excellent but slightly expensive processor, about 1200 NIS before Cooling . Intermediate level board at about 400, 16GB fast at about 400 and another quality fan and you get to 2100-2200. 

If you go on Intel The prices of memory boards and cooling remain similar but processors are cheaper.

The 10400f processor will give good value for the price, in a physical start it costs less than 700 NIS. And in the 800 you can get a 11400F name which is probably the ideal choice.

It is worth noting that the processors of Intel Consume a lot of electricity today and if you go for this option you should purchase a slightly more expensive board with a good power supply.

 

In such a situation you can sell the old parts when in my opinion they will sell better as a complete computer with a case and supplier. (And maybe you have a destiny for them ...)

The same games you mentioned that take advantage of multi-cores thanks to the dx12 will overcome the congestion moments and the system will also be able to form the basis for a better video card in the future.

 

Thank you very much for the detailed response!

I'm not in principle Intel either ., The main thing to get the best value for money in the same budget.

if you please I would love if you could recommend specific ingredients For Intel based trinity versus based trinity (including In both).

No problem exceeding 2200.

 

The second part of the response (Frankenstein Processors - I learned something), Less relevant to me.

I'm looking for a simple and standard solution as the last user, without various OC or Bios hacked deals (even though I was there once ...).

And thanks again!

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As for the cooling, I did not delve into and do not remember B.P. There are several versions of 212, apparently not all of them were created equal.

It is probably better to take a more expensive version or wait for another recommendation

In any case, within the increased budget (2200)

You can add to the 11600 processor with another 400 MHz (about 200 NIS)

Or 32 GB of memory (about 350 NIS) 

או Water (costs 250-350 instead of 100-150) 

Or a board with wifi6 for an additional NIS 100 if relevant. 

 

 

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I did not understand what 212 is ...

 

And 2 questions:

1. Does the board you recommend support compact MM drives in NVMe drives?

2. Which water cooler is recommended that is simple And quiet?

 

Thanks 

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212 This is the model of the refrigeration unit selected in the photographed specification, when in fact it is a family of models.

1- Yes. It has 2 mounts for drives . It is possible and recommended not to purchase on a blind and if you get a recommendation on a model of product roll it to at least see a picture.

2- All simple, all in one systems closed. What case do you have? It should be seen that there is room for installation.

According to foreign publications - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3oulxTKOWg

CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Black Edition - Air at 150 NIS 

Will give you almost identical performance in terms of noise and cooling to

CoolerMaster MasterLiquid ML240L RGB V2 - Water at 260 NIS.

Water cooling has an advantage in appearance, in that there is no large heat load close to the video card (the heat is carried to the radiator which is a bit far away) and a disadvantage in that it needs space to install the radiator. 

For the avoidance of doubt the two above recommendations are refrigerated properly and quietly 

 

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About NVMe - Acne any drive in Black Friday or one of the upcoming promotions.

Probably one of those:

https://hwzone.co.il/main-computers/כונני-nvme-מפורסמים-במחירים-מצחיקים-כעת-ב/

But why do you need a picture? NVMe Is it not standard and size standard?

 

Regarding the case (and the supplier):

Homes: V3 Black Edition
Power Supply: 430W ThermalTake

 

Guess I'll have to replace the carrier too or he can stay? If so - a recommendation?

Thanks

 

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As for the memories, you can stick with the ones you have. The improvement in performance of Memories Faster is negligible and you also do not need to expand to 32.

I disagree with you, my performance New are tested with Compatible, I do not know a test of 11400 with 2400. 

In fact, with quite a few discussions opening on the site, it can be seen that improving the bandwidth of the memories has a clear effect on the 99th percentile and the whole purpose of this upgrade is the 95-99th percentile. 

It is assumed that the memories are of 2133 or 2400 and it is assumed that the old parts are also not thrown in the trash but are sold or switched to use on another computer.

If 16 GB of 3200 costs 322 NIS, it is better to sell the old ones for about 150 NIS and move on with new ones. 

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It's hard for me to answer, the case looks outdated, do not know if you can easily fit a 240 radiator even if there is room 

Sure you can put a single fan radiator in place of the existing fan in the back but it is perhaps less efficient than the air cooling I suggested.

In my opinion, if you stay if this case, you will choose the 212 hyper black instead Water.

 

 

Power supply I would replace. I was going to say in advance that you should know who he is and maybe replace, but you asked for a trinity so I refrained.

Do not know how to recommend an intermediate model at the moment, will wait for another opinion 

 

 

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But why do you need a picture? NVMe Is it not standard and size standard?

If you saw a picture you would not have to ask. 

 

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I guess there are a lot of power supplies that do the job, your power supply is also considered a fourth division.

I know how to recommend only suppliers from the first division. That does not mean you have to listen to me.

The cheapest A-League provider I found costs 290, an additional 50 shekels and you get a completely modular A-League (cables fall apart)

Choose, of course you do not need 2 suppliers. Apparently it is also possible to live with a lower quality supplier.

 

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