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Rebellious Training - Is it possible to cool the 12900K with air cooling?


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I mean AS IS is not user manipulation .....

Yes, and without any touch different boards by default will run the CPU differently so to say "as is" is pretty meaningless.

Beyond that the cooling problems of this processor start and end only at full synthetic load and for most users as well Medium + will suffice.

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Rendering a scene in Handbrake movie blender / conversion and exporting in editing software They are not synthetic.

The 240K "12900W" problem also occurs in these situations as they bring the CPU to a continuous continuous load. The thermal density of the processor along with this power consumption can indeed lead to problems even with the most advanced air coolers on the market. It does not matter if it's a GIGABYTE motherboard, of Or from MSI - the 240W limit of the 12900K results in almost the same heat emission between all Where the option of not limiting the turbo load on time is chosen, an option that is sometimes chosen by default.

 

Instead of examining countless coolants, lowering the problem starts with the fact that a user who has the patience can significantly reduce the heat emission of the processor in the first place with the adjustment of the maximum heat envelope. This is not a long preoccupation with countless variables, but mainly with maximum working voltage and setting a general heat envelope. Alder Lake is Which knows how to manage power resources wonderfully with external settings thanks to its internal voltage controller for the components in the processor.

 

Then, one can examine which Suitable for work. Technically, the problem exists significantly less with the 12700K simply because its overall heat envelope at an output of about 190W is already about the starting point of the 12900K after tuning. Of course, it is also possible to gently shave from it about 20/30 watts of heat emission with maximum effort.

 

An alternative solution is to simply allow the maximum turbo to work for only a few seconds. Automatically lowering to 125W at maximum load will slow down the rendering slightly, but does not translate it to being significantly slower. Kind of a win win

 

 

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Rendering a scene in Handbrake movie blender / conversion and exporting in editing software Video They are not synthetic. Sabba, people whose computer is their job will need to invest in refrigeration.

The 240K "12900W" problem also occurs in these situations as they bring the CPU to a continuous continuous load. The thermal density of the processor along with this power consumption can indeed lead to problems even with the most advanced air coolers on the market. It does not matter if it's a GIGABYTE motherboard, of ASUS Or from MSI - the 240W limit of the 12900K results in almost the same heat emission between all Motherboard Where the option of not limiting the turbo load on time is chosen, an option that is sometimes chosen by default. I would love if you could check if the D15 is not enough to cool this processor with the right bracket (or similar ones like the deepcool assassin or dark rock 4).

 

Instead of examining countless coolants, lowering the problem starts with the fact that a user who has the patience can significantly reduce the heat emission of the processor in the first place with the adjustment of the maximum heat envelope. This is not a long preoccupation with countless variables, but mainly with maximum working voltage and setting a general heat envelope. Alder Lake is architecture Which knows how to manage power resources wonderfully with external settings thanks to its internal voltage controller for the components in the processor. That's true, but it's true of every processor ever open so as a point on the 12900 it's a bit of a miss.

 

Then, one can examine which Cooling Suitable for work. Technically, the problem exists significantly less with the 12700K simply because its overall heat envelope at an output of about 190W is already about the starting point of the 12900K after tuning. Of course, it is also possible to gently shave from it about 20/30 watts of heat emission with maximum effort.

 

An alternative solution is to simply allow the maximum turbo to work for only a few seconds. Automatically lowering to 125W at maximum load will slow down the rendering slightly, but does not translate it to being significantly slower. Kind of a win win From my experience with my 10850K undervolt not only lowers the heat significantly but also improves performance if you let the processor do what it wants so this should be the first thing worth trying in my opinion.

 

 

 

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I currently know of five boards of That the behavior of 12900K at maximum load with D15 is matched with the official estimate that the behavior is more or less the same.

The working temperature is ... to say in a way that respects all parties on the subject - not fun. 90 degrees on a good day, 100 degrees on a bad day. Admittedly, it seems that the 12900K in this mode mostly maintains a uniform and maximum frequency of 240W.

 

I do hear from engineers at Intel itself from conversations that there are nuances worth getting to know about Eldar Lake, and that it sucks a bit that this is usually inside information because the company's policy on the part of its employees is not to "recommend" , Tweaking and everything like that in games of tension and restrictions.

 

It's kind of a situation that depends on how you look at it. Technically, this work mode can be treated as a computer work mode Advanced, where high temperature is not the variable, but mainly the frequencies and the product itself. If I have some time, I can update this thread with all sorts of other findings and thoughts that come up during assemblies and disassemblies of the refrigeration and various boards

 

The entire thermal bottleneck in the bracket area. The heat sink does not get to heat up completely with this platform. This is one of the reasons by the way you set Water is getting some pur in LGA1700 processors so far. Simply because their strength is a more efficient concentrated heat removal in the bracket

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I currently know of five boards of Z690 That the behavior of 12900K at maximum load with D15 is matched with the official estimate that the behavior is more or less the same.

The working temperature is ... to say in a way that respects all parties on the subject - not fun. 90 degrees on a good day, 100 degrees on a bad day. Admittedly, it seems that the 12900K in this mode mostly maintains a uniform and maximum frequency of 240W. If the CPU is working, does it matter what number is listed in the monitoring software?

 

I do hear from engineers at Intel itself from conversations that there are nuances worth getting to know about Eldar Lake, and that it sucks a bit that this is usually inside information because the company's policy on the part of its employees is not to "recommend" Overclocking, Tweaking and everything like that in games of tension and restrictions. As usual a disgrace resulting from low level management, you are already making people pay tens of percent more for Open and panels that allow - Why not give all the information there is.

 

It's kind of a situation that depends on how you look at it. Technically, this work mode can be treated as a computer work mode Mobile Advanced, where high temperature is not the variable, but mainly the frequencies and the product itself. If I have some time, I can update this thread with all sorts of other findings and thoughts that come up during assemblies and disassemblies of the refrigeration and various boards

 

The entire thermal bottleneck in the bracket area. The heat sink does not get to heat up completely with this platform. This is one of the reasons by the way you set Cooling Water is getting some pur in LGA1700 processors so far. Simply because their strength is a more efficient concentrated heat removal in the bracket

It will be interesting to see what happens in the future and whether they will spend Exclusive air for this bracket that can handle it better.

Also interesting what will be the shape of the following processors of And will they also be "strange" like those of .

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