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Core i7 6700K CPU Review - Meet SkyLike

New generation processors Going into the air world, we go out to check out exactly what they can do and how it affects the market

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Past, present and future according to Intel

Let's embark on a short journey in time, just 10 years back for summer of 2005. Rumors and articles are starting to emerge on the web on a new architecture called Conroe. Changing the brand in the doorway will bring the first processors where there is emphasis on cores, many cores. Series . The computer market is hungry for performance, the lack of which is felt on many levels, and Intel is giving gas in an innovative process of 65 nanometers.

The years 2006 to 2009 were very important years in the world of computers and hardware. In these three years the average video card is powered She managed to double herself Twice when we started with Geforce 7900GT and finished with the Geforce GTX 285, when we started with the Pentium D and finished with the Core 2 Quad Q9650. These extreme changes occurred simply because the need was there.
Since then, it seems that the demand for high processing power has been significantly reduced among PC users, at least most of them. From 2011 to the present, there has been a significant change in the approach of XNUMX Towards this market. The market was split into extras and majors with two separate seats, and the improvement in processing power was significantly less than in previous generations.

Now the emphasis is on the wider public, a concern that involves reducing power consumption and increasing the core graphics power in the processor to suit media needs such as playback And games .

As a result of the extreme improvement in power consumption and the relative power in relation to it,WALNUT And like ultra-.

The next step in evolution, the Skylike processors

Today is a day that marks another step in the progress of Towards smarter and more advanced computing with the launch of a new series called Code . This series continues the Aswell and Broadwell series of the LGA1150 chassis that we have become accustomed to in the past two years.

Similar to the launch format presented by Intel on 2011, after a series of processors are refreshed in an existing socket, a new series of processors will arrive, bringing in a new chassis. The SkyLike is no exception, and comes with a completely new processor chassis, a LGA1151 chassis with 1151 touch points (pins). These processors are manufactured in a new production process of 14 nanometers. This is compared to the 22 nanometer process we know from the aswell processors Core i7 4790K.

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That's how you look at the processors The new Skylike series on the shelves. Intel seems to be putting a serious emphasis this time on branding, and is taking serious criticism of the senseless packaging of the Haswell processors. In the new packaging you will not find any coolers for the K processors. Understand that users are looking for a body Serious for such processors.

Intel - Meet the new processors

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As I mentioned, the SkyLike processors will come with a LGA1151 chassis that is not compatible with previous generations processors, so you can not assemble a processor such as 4790K or 3770K, they just will not physically enter. At launch there are two Who go into the world's air first. God- i7 6700K and i5 6600K. The format is very similar to recent launches, but the data are slightly different.

The Core i7 6700K processor is a quad-core processor with the HyperThreading feature. This feature simulates four additional cores, giving the processor better processing capability by splitting processes and working more effectively on them. The operating frequency of the 6700K is 4 GHz, and using Turbo's technology , The operating frequency can reach 4.2 GHz. This processor contains 8 megabytes of RAM A cache with a heat envelope of 91 watts. Yes, processors Have a higher heat envelope than the Aswell, although they are manufactured in the process of producing 14 nanometers compared to 22. Later on you will also understand why.

Laboratory- i5 6600K is a little brother, and it comes with four-core processing. Traditionally, the main difference between the two is that the 6600K does not contain HyperThreading and its four cores work without further help. The operating frequency is also lower and stands at 3.5 GHz. Its Turbo frequency reaches up to 3.9 GHz. This processor carries a 6 megabyte of Same cache and heat envelope of 91 watts.

Launch prices of These are 350 USD to 6700K and 243 USD. For comparison, the prices of i7 and 4790K i5 and 4690K were respectively.

Motherboards - new chassis, new chipset, flexible memories

As befits a new chassis, the new motherboards come with a new Chipset chipset, the Z170. This chipset is soon expected to join cheaper and simpler packages.

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The chipset is actually The motherboard has its functions Many with different components. It actually helps the processor communicate with components such as hard drives, expansion interfaces, and some ports.

The new Z170 chip is very similar to the Z97 we know from the previous chassis, but has received a few facelifts. For the first time, say hi and goodbye to PCI-Express 2.0. That's it, It's over. You will no longer find 1-sized PCI-Express interfaces (2.0), and now their traffic volume has doubled and are moving to 3.0. In numbers, from 500 megabytes per second, to 985 megabytes per second. This means that small expansion cards are receiving significant traffic acceleration that will help add components that are not installed on the large PCI-Express slots. This is good news especially for the storage market. The PCI-Express 1 X3.0 interface can now be received Which burst the traditional SATA receiver on a board that is still limited to 580 megabytes per second.

Here are some of the additional features that you will find in the Z170 chip-based boards (may vary in some models): 10 USB interfaces 3.0, 14 USB interfaces 2.0, and 20 3.0 PCI Express. Motherboard manufacturers are going to use the chipset's PCI-Express routers to scatter them between the expansion interfaces, the M.2 interfaces, And maybe we'll see some more surprises.

Memories - remaining, Entered

It's been a long time since we've seen two different memory types supported on the same platform. At the end of the life of a LGA775 resident, several motherboard models with support for DDR2 and Different grooves. These memories could not work at the same time, but they gave flexibility to those who upgraded in the form of using old memories New.

With LGA1151 chassis the story is similar, roughly. Memory is supported , But as then, only in models that explicitly contain slots . Not all memory Will support LGA1151 boards with slots . Due to the nature of the new processors and their memory controllers, The only one that supports is actually DDR3L, a memory that operates at a voltage of 1.35 volts or less. So, if you have a memory At a voltage of 1.5 or higher, you will need to replace it to move to the new chassis.

Support for The new is inclusive and there are no limitations. The high-end memory, launched with the LGA2011-3 extender, has already dropped tens of percent of the price. As of this writing, 8 is gigabyte of At 2133 MHz you will receive 350-380. This, while the same DDR3L volume will cost only 10-30 less. The difference is not significant in this case. If in certain places The price of these memories is expected to decline significantly in the near future thanks to price updates.

The graphic core is an inseparable part

When she passed When LGA775 is installed on the LGA1156 chassis on 2010, it has decided that it is time to dispose of the graphics coreboards on the motherboard and integrate them into the processors themselves. Thus, we received pioneers such as the Pentium G6950, which brought with it a modest graphic core that was sufficient for simple home and office applications. Since then, works In full force to increase the graphic power as much as possible in its processors.

In this review, I will focus mainly on the Core i7 6700K processor, simply because it is the processor I received for Intel. Core i7 6700K has an enhanced graphics core called HD Graphics 530. You may find it simply under the name HD530. The graphics core frequency can reach up to 1150 MHz and graphics memory is the system memory, whether DDR3L or . For this reason, the faster the memory, the higher the core graphics performance.

How fast i7 6700K compared to the previous generation processor i7 4790K? How fast is the graphics core and is the investment worth it? It's time to pass the performance tests and find out.

Performance tests - test systems

LGA1150 System:
Core i7 Processor 4790K
Motherboard MSI Z97 Mpower Max AC
G.Skill sniper memory 2X8GB 1600Mhz

LGA1151 System:
Core i7 Processor 6700K
Motherboard ASRock Z170 Extreme6
ADATA memory 2X4GB 2133Mhz

The video card tested in the game tests is Sapphire XXUMXX9X 290GB Tri-X, Sapphire volume is M4 Pro 5GB of And the power supply is Corsair's HX 1050W. The operating system is 10 in Pro version.

Cinebench

The Cinebench test is a test where the computer system must render as fast as possible to a complex 3D scene. Rendering is performed in small pieces and distributed evenly between processor cores for maximum efficiency. A higher score means shorter rendering time.
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The difference in this test in favor of 7K i6700 is 3.4 percent.

WinRAR

The Winrar compression test is one of the most popular performance tests. Everything is measured here optimally. Memory, processing power and response times.
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In this performance test, the advantage of the 7K i6700 system is an addition of 9.1% . This is slightly more acceptable and higher than the render test, where the system memory has a lower effect.

Battlefield 4

El Game tests joins Sapphire's Radeon R9 290X video card. The purpose of these tests is to show what performance they are producing in the gaming system. The game is tested at 1920X1200 under Ultra settings.
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As you can see, there is a small advantage to 6700K, how it is not significant at all

Unigine Heaven

Heaven is not a game, but a high-definition 3D display. True, it carries the DNA of new games and contains elements you will find in them like high resolution textures, advanced polygon detailing and realistic shading. Heaven also features testing tools, making it a favorite for hardware reviewers. The test resolution is 1920X1200 under Ultra Settings.
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The advantage of 6700K here too is very small and stands at less than one percent.

Metro: Last Light

The Metro Games series is based on an advanced graphics engine called A4. This graphic engine makes heavy use of the elements that DirectX11 has to offer and also comes with convenient testing tools for precise hardware testing. The processors were tested under 1920X1200 in maximum settings with normalization.
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Nothing new here under the sun, less than one percent of the performance of the Metro gaming between the two processors

Power consumption

Power consumption was measured from the wall outlet. The differences presented are between the two complete test systems.
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The differences in power consumption between the two platforms are certainly interesting. Advanced voltage control causes 6700K to be a cool processor with extremely low power consumption at rest. However, when I ran Prime95 and let the processors process numbers without rest, the 6700K power consumption exceeded that of the 4790K

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Another important test is the built-in GPU. To do this I separated from the R9 290X and connected the screen directly to the display ports on the motherboards.
The competition is between 4600K HD 4790 and 530K HD 6700. Remember, the built-in graphics cores use RAM memory to store graphic information. I chose three different types of tests to reflect the differences in graphic processing strengths: light play, Street Fighter IV, OpenGL and heavy game, 4.

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In Street Fighter IV on 4790K, you can say that it is barely worn when 6700K can be said to be definitely worn. The difference between the two in this game stands at not less than 58 percent. In the Cinebench OpenGL test, the graphics power of HD 530 is also expressed with 45.8 percent difference. For dessert, I ran the 4 at 1280X720 resolution under Medium Settings. In this game, a difference of 44 is observed in favor of the 6700K and its built-in graphics core, the HD 530.

In light of these results, one can gently say that the graphics core of the i7 6700K is approaching the standard gaming capabilities of HD-Ready (or 1280X720) screens. This is a great achievement for the team of Considering that this is a separate processing unit on my back Square modern and strong cores.

Analysis of performance tests

I will begin the analysis of the performance tests with the score of the obvious. Some expected this and some waited for the performance tests. The overall performance difference between the i7 4790K and the i7 6700K is zero. In fact, this is one of the performance differentials if not the "lowest" difference we have seen in the transition between different brackets. Even in the transition between 2600K and 3770K, the differences were much more dramatic.

Sandy and Abie Bridge still have no real reason to upgrade if processor performance improvement is what they're looking for, definitely. However, in tests where CPU memory is used more heavily, performance differences are significantly higher. With time and availability of memories Faster, this difference is likely to continue to grow.

As far as its core graphics are concerned, Doing it again. The 530 HD graphics core embedded in the 7K i6700 processor is quite strong and the performance improvement over 4790K's graphics core is close to an average of 50 percent. This improvement gives the HD 530 the stamp as a graphical interface that can satisfy those who occasionally want to run easy games beyond browser games or indie 2D. Maybe a bout of nostalgia will make you install 4 or Half Life 2. In this case HD 530 will not have a problem at all to run such titles under maximum settings. This graphic power is an important added value for many users and saves a lot of expense on a dedicated video card.

Yes upgrade? Do not upgrade?

The question "Should I upgrade?" Always jumps in comments and forum after launching a new platform. There is no general answer to this because it depends on the user's existing hardware and needs. In general it can be said with confidence that holders i5 from the past four generations can be calm about upgrading the system. The performance difference between 6700K and a processor like 2600K is still not quite significant. In fact, even upgrading from a processor such as i7 920 may not always be justified, depending on the reason and needs.

Either way, at the moment the LGA1150 has a few weeks before it becomes a part of the past that can not be recommended at all. Users who need new i5 and i7 processors - here's an opportunity to innovate with a new chassis and new technologies, the cash difference is not great even if you buy it with a memory type .

Which to take? Should I stay with DDR3?

First of all, it is important for me to stress again that the The only one supported on the SkyLike platform is DDR3L with only 1.35 operating voltage and not 1.5 volts. If you have such a memory with a weak and old system, it makes sense to switch to the LGA1151 board that supports DDR3L with a new processor. If you do not have a memory like this and you go to buy a new computer, invest a few dozen shekels and buy it with . You will enjoy a slightly faster system, allowing you to upgrade to memory that will be relevant at least until the end of this decade. That, instead A little cheaper that is expected to be raised and disappear almost completely later.

The future of the mainstream desktop market

It seems that Intel has been taking things slowly and confidently lately. Improving processing performance has reached the minimum possible level to call it an upgrade. In addition, it seems that everyone who takes care of electricity consumption and heat emission in the desktop market does not get products to help his concerns. Despite the dramatic transition from 22 to In the production process, the use of the two processors is similar in terms of heat and electricity.

A lot of engineering went to the graphics side of the processor. Improvement of nearly 50 percent is not going to be evident Over and over to make sure you can play with the new processors, the minimum requirements for high-quality movies and browser games have gone through four generations. the mother Aspires to gaming processors that will not require a dedicated video card, or perhaps it is preparing micro- Graphical that she will soon be planting in video cards dedicated to gamers? At the moment you can only wonder.

One thing is quite clear, there does not seem to be a serious demand today to improve processing power in the desktop market and Intel is moving comfortably in this market while taking care of other markets that are as popular as (Someone said Zenfone?), Ultras and mini computers.

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Increased- i7 6700K I will warmly recommend to anyone looking for Good and do not want to throw thousands on Extreme. Is the natural continuation of 4790K, at the price of 4790K and on a platform that offers a host of significant improvements.

Stay tuned for the next few weeks, when we bring you reviews on new motherboards, More and more!


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  1. URL = "http://ark.intel.com/compare/88195,80807"] link [/ URL]). The same goes for the Core i5-6600K and Core i5-4690K processors, which cost $ 242 for the tray version and
    1. In terms of Intel Core i7-6700K and Core i7-4790K cost exactly the same - 339 dollars for the tray version and 350 dollars for the box version (

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    ). The same applies to the Core i5-6600K and Core i5-4690K processors, which cost $ 242 for the tray and 243 versions for the box version (
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    ). This means that the new processor stores should cost exactly the same as the fourth generation processors. 2. The TDP of the two new processors is 95W and not 91W, at least according to Intel's website. 3. The graphical cores built into the new processors are still weaker than those built into the fifth-generation (Broadwell) processors used by the Iris Pro 6200 cores. It's a shame that Intel has chosen to lower the performance of the graphical cores of the sixth generation processors compared to the fifth generation processors, especially given the fact that this is obviously not a technical difficulty but simply a conscious choice. 4. The fact that the Z170 chipset offers 20 PCI Express 3.0 tracks versus 8 PCI Express 2.0 tracks in the Z97 chipset is indeed a welcome improvement. Practically, some of these XIUMX PCI Express tracks will be used for the M.20 and USB 2 connections, but PCI Express tracks will still be available for other uses. If even the "weaker" chip sets have 3.0 PCI Express 20 tracks, or even close to them, it may well appear that SLI-supported boards are not based on the Zxx chipset. 3.0. The small improvement in performance was quite predictable, since in recent years Intel has "accustomed" the public to small improvements in performance among its processor generations. I definitely agree with the article - this is one of the smallest performance improvements seen in recent years, so anyone with a second-generation Core i5 has no point in upgrading.
  2. I'm seriously debating whether to upgrade from my 2500K ...
    PCIE 3.0 vs. 2.0 (yes yes, Sandy Bridge does not support 3.0)
    DDR4 vs DDR3 (and the opportunity to jump to 16GB Ram, because I didn't want to invest in the DDR3 upgrade today)
    General improvement between I5 and I7
    All the new levels of bios, power, more built-in USB3 connections, M.2, NVMe support and the built-in graphical kernel that will allow me to hold if I am "between cards"

    Hard hard…

  3. A very comprehensive article.
    If I read correctly, smart buying is actually the most despised generation. The 5775. Negligible performance differences in the processor but an even stronger graphics core than the one that came with 6700K

  4. ^ Korb revisited his comprehensive overview with comparisons to simple video cards on the market

  5. In short, Intel can look for someone else who will save the field of desktops (and many think like me).
    I was willing to spend a few thousand shekels on a new gaming PC but not worth switching from 3770K, the difference is simply embarrassing.
    Much talk about the decline in desktop buying, but Intel is doing it for themselves.
    Improve one domain and skip the other completely, even if it doesn't cost them much - already have processing cores and graphical cores, just separate and produce only a processor for the low-emission domestic market (they can easily reach TDP of less than 60) and more space Hurry.
    Profits from customers who want low-cost processing performance (not just games) will probably cover expenses and increase the amount of customers.
    Plus, gamers / enthusiasts are always treated by their percentage of customers and completely disregard their advertising and marketing power (for example, I receive an average of 3 requests each week on a new computer, and as time goes by I find myself recommending a basic computer / tablet or not at all, not just Because of the need, but also because of the lack of performance improvement and the cost-benefit).
    Once gamers used to upgrade / replace a computer frequently, today only replace a video card and / or SSD.
    Intel has been shooting itself in the foot in recent years just as Microsoft has done in smartphones and tablets.
    At this rate, the next computer I buy will have 16 ARM cores at 3GHz frequency.

  6. Thanks for the info: xyxthumbs:
    Intel's really interesting direction with the graphics cores and where it's going to go, I think of a gaming machine with a MINI board without a video card and what a SFX provider it can be so small and quiet and still powerful and it would be really easy to cool such a thing then even quieter and small. .

    @djelectric,
    1. Are there any results or maybe you tried the 6700K with DDR3L memories (I think the test snipers are like mine as well) against the 4790K with the same memory?
    2. I have always been intrigued by the process of graphical core heat exhaustion, I want to understand something, should the 91W wall (or 95W by the meticulous Smalul I salute patience like that) say in PRIME100's 95% LOAD, and at the same time open some benches Graphic core soup Consumption from the wall will rise above the 91W95W? If she doesn't rise then what exactly is she "alive"? Because it starts to look like there is a processor here that just knows how to work in two forms (both as a graphical processor and as the familiar processor that sits at the heart of each system in a bit confuses me.)

    @Ymac,
    It is indeed difficult and I am back from you ..
    The wink to the upgrade is more all the features around biossatausb or what you already counted on more than processing power that won't make a difference or make me fall out of the chair.
    Maybe even Haswell E or Skaylake E ?! No idea yet ..

  7. I think very little of the importance of TDP.
    Not to say that he is false, but that he does not materialize in any way. In essence, software without overclocking and tricks can make the processor go through their heat envelope tens of percent.
    The heat casing is only a "consumable area" at this point, and the only way to know how much processor is needed is to test it at different loads. At a common load it can consume 70 watts and another 110

  8. That's it, the jump in performance has been more marginal to me.
    Get all the new features.
    Lior, has criticism of the Asus Z170 compatible panels? The deluxe?
    I'm waiting to order, but the processors aren't available anywhere in Canada USA (not even listed on the site ...) But our plunters already have a selection of boards to drown and the two processors in stock (Israeli pride)

  9. The best thing about these processors is that DDR4 prices will be closer to 3 due to demand and competition.

  10. This is, already, the leap in performance marginally for me. To get all the new features is yes. Lior, is there a review on the Asus Z170 boards? The deluxe? I'm waiting to order, but the processors aren't available anywhere in Canada USA (not even listed on the site ...) But our plunters already have a selection of boards to drown in and the two processors in stock (Israeli pride)
    TMS also has the new processors (
    
    
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    ) Only the smaller Gigabyte selection for now.
  11. Comprehensive and informative article.
    I understand the need to get a bottom line of "Does it pay to upgrade", but the comparison is not fair; What is the logic of comparing a Mainstream processor to an Extreme processor? Mainstream upgrades want to hear if it pays to move to the new Mainstream as well as Extreme users are interested in Extreme - these are two different market segments. The comparison is also not very fair in view of the fact that the RAM does not equal the volume of the systems.

    Want an effective bottom line? Use the same systems as possible in the built-in limits and compare the sets of the leads to that market segment.
    The assertion that Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge would have no real value for such an upgrade is absurd; Where is the comparison made? We're talking about two series that are light years apart and the differences in performance are enormous.

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    These processors are generally Enthusias while the Mainstream processors were released at the end of the month so there is no comparison of any Extreme processor.

    The question "Should I upgrade?" Always jumps in comments and forum after launching a new platform. 
    There is no general answer to this because it depends on the user's existing hardware and needs
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    Intel Skylake i7-6700K tested: a smart upgrade despite small gaming gains - PCGamer
    
    
    So, should you upgrade? Like Nintendo games, Intel processors may age, but they rarely grow cheaper. When Intel releases a new line of processors, the older ones are phased out of the market and are no longer available for purchase new. Unless you're dealing hunting on eBay, you're probably not going to pick up a year-old Intel CPU for cheap. That means you can either pick up a Haswell CPU for a limited time right now — at virtually the same price as Skylake — or move to the new platform. Unless you can get an absolute steal on a Z97 motherboard and DDR3 RAM, it simply makes sense to move to Skylake. If the PC you're upgrading from is more than a year old, you're going to need a new motherboard with a new socket, anyway. Is it worth upgrading from Haswell / Devil's Canyon? No. You are looking at virtually no CPU performance increase on an investment of $ 500 + between processor, motherboard and RAM. Is it worth upgrading from Ivy Bridge? Not really, at least not for gaming. Skylake gaming performance is only marginally better than Devil's Canyon on average, and the bump from Ivy Bridge to Haswell delivered the standard 5-10 percent increase in overall performance. Remember that games are more often bottlenecked by the GPU, not the CPU. Gaming performance between the Haswell 4770K (2013) and Ivy Bridge 3770K (2012) is virtually identical across many games. M.2 SSD support is a point in favor of Skylake, but hardly worth the upgrade by itself at this point. Is it worth upgrading from Sandy Bridge? Based purely on gaming framerates, again, no. You're still only going to see an 5-10 percent increase in framerates with Skylake, even going back four years to the 2011 Sandy Bridge processors. But now we're getting into territory where there are some other advantages. Sandy Bridge was limited to DDR3-1333 (before overclocking), while Skylake supports much faster DDR4 RAM. M.2 SSD support is another point in Skylake's favor. Sandy Bridge is also limited to PCIe 2.0, which has roughly half the throughput (500MB / s) of PCIe 3.0 (about 985 MB / s). PCIe 2.0 is still plenty fast for any single GPU setup. For a dual-GPU setup with a cutting edge card, PCIe 3.0's extra bandwidth may offer slightly better performance. Is it worth upgrading from Nehalem? Hell yeah. That 2008 chip is ancient at this point: you'll run at far faster and more efficient base clocks, be able to overclock far more, and run far faster RAM. Circa-2008 boards also may lack USB 3.0 ports and SATA 6Gb / s, which modern SSDs are now fully saturating. Boy oh boy, are you ready for an upgrade.
    
    				
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    Waiting to see OC Coverage capabilities.
    Thanks for the investment
    Lior Excellent review.
    I liked the little "surgery" after every bun (instead of general surgery at the bunks' squash).

    Why didn't you use slightly narrower RAM systems?
    Both 8 and 16 counter at really different speeds.
    It seems to me that this has had a significant effect (especially in)

    
    
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    Waiting to see OC Coverage capabilities.
    Thanks for the investment

  14. I calculate very little importance for TDP data. Not to say that he is false, but that he does not materialize in any way. In essence, software without overclocking and tricks can make the processor go through their heat envelope tens of percent. The heat casing is only a "consumable area" at this point, and the only way to know how much processor is needed is to test it at different loads. At a common load it can consume 70 watts and another 110
    Interesting, and probably (I'm totally guessing) that there's a lot of backstage. Thank you for the information.
    
    
    
    This is, already, the leap in performance marginally for me. To get all the new features is yes. Lior, is there a review on the Asus Z170 boards? The deluxe? I'm waiting to order, but the processors aren't available anywhere in Canada USA (not even listed on the site ...) But our plunters already have a selection of boards to drown in and the two processors in stock (Israeli pride)
    The deluxe does seem a good choice and unlike X99 will probably cost less. And if being superficial for a moment it comes well with the black and white of Fractal: P I still think ..
  15. There is a lot of incompatible hardware from all manufacturers, can not give names and details at the moment. There will also be interesting surprises.

  16. So anyone who was planning to spend 5k on a computer now can continue to be calm with the 1150 or wait for 1151 ?!

  17. I was before buying 4690k in the 5k spec and now I am totally confused… on the one hand there is no significant performance improvement on the other hand wait for new technology when initially only the luxury versions were released?

  18. You know what my picture looks like, right? Everything black and white is as simple as a glove will fit! And finally, real PWM connectors and not just four pins for beauty.

    Knows what the boy looks like ... and indeed it will enter there like a glove.
    But I still think you should wait and see all (and if not all then at least) options that should come in soon .. (as djelectric threw a message below you) that waiting a bit is not so bad and the choice may be better for you. In short do not lose a little patience.

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    First of all, there is a lot of thanks for Lior's deep and objective article on the new processor.

    The big 'blow' for me is that there is no performance change in rendering.
    According to the reviews now, I see no reason to get rid of my system from 2010 with the I7 860 processor
    And buy a new Skylake system to improve performance - whatever I planned to buy
    This is a processor with 6 or 8 cores (with HT simulating 12 or 16 processors).

    On my niece's computer purchased at the end of 2011 with 3960K motherboard processor - 6 cores (12 processors)
    Improving performance in Rendering is about half the processing time compared to my I7 860.

    She also doesn't seem to be paying off to move to the Skylake system to improve performance…

  20. I'm not buying anything yet, the paycheck only comes in at 10 and I won't be in the country for two weeks at all but I have a visitor from Canada twice this month, so it's worth taking his visits

    Visiting Canada is always good 🙂
    In short, it will be interesting.

  21. a question
    Can the HD530 run BF4 on June?
    This is real?
    Medium I understand this is at the level of… .. GTX460?

  22. As the exam system appears, by registered settings, 1280X720 on medium - the result is the average FPS amount in the initial scenes of the game.
    Of course, in multiplayer the performance will be lower, and some of the settings will be lowered to the low, but yes it definitely eroded

  23. In short, Intel is eyeing us. Removed a "new" processor that has almost no advantage over the previous generation.

  24. The assertion that Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge would have no real value for such an upgrade is absurd; Where is the comparison made? These are two series

    The light years are far from each other and the differences in performance are huge.
    You write such a delusional sentence and then dare to talk about absurd determinations ?????????????????????????????
    Your sentence can make sense only if you change the order of words a bit:
    "These are two series where the differences in performance from each other are far from light years from being huge"

    I happen to have i7 ivy bridge (3770) and I assure you that there is no processor in the market today, not even the fastest and most expensive Extreme processor in the world, which displays a "huge performance difference" from it.
    In fact, not even my heaviest uses (graphic editing, programming, games) even tickle it!
    I will go further and will bet you that in a blind test and normal use of the computer (not running Benchmark software) you will never be able to identify which computer is running my 3770 and which computer is running this 6700, given a similar parallel specification. Life? Want to bet?

  25. Comprehensive and informative article. I understand the need to get a bottom line of "Does it pay to upgrade", but the comparison is not fair; What is the logic of comparing a Mainstream processor to an Extreme processor? Mainstream upgrades want to hear if it pays to move to the new Mainstream as well as Extreme users are interested in Extreme - these are two different market segments. The comparison is also not very fair in view of the fact that the RAM does not equal the volume of the systems. Want an effective bottom line? Use identical systems as far as possible within the built-in constraints and compare the targeted series to the same market segment. The assertion that the owners of Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge would not be a real reward for such an upgrade is absurd; Where is the comparison made? These are two series that are light years away from each other and the differences in performance are tremendous.

    Funny, but 30% extra performance What i5 3470 to i5 6660K It's not exactly "amazing" considering that my i5 3470 I bought three years ago when it came out, is definitely not something worth investing in again 2000 on a motherboard, CPU and XNUM DXX % Percent of this year is still a sad joke and annoying focus on the graphical core even in the desktop series that usually get the Second tear and not the strongest cores either ... so as I skip Skylake, next year will probably see another 4 percent improvement in performance as every year ...

  26. 2. The TDP of the two new processors is 95W and not 91W, at least according to the Intel site.
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    I was just about to write this - originally the TDP of the new processors on Intel's site was 95W and just yesterday evening it was changed to 91W. It is interesting to know how Lior Matityahu knew that their TDP was 91W even though Intel's official information was incorrect.

  28. It is customary to send data sheets along with the product being tested, apparently the missing page was only on the site and the data pages were correct.

  29. It is not clear to me why they do not bother to state more on the turbo frequency according to the number of cores since the frequency always mentioned today is only a single frequency or 2 reaches it when it is all cores together the lower frequency (usually 100 / 200Hz more for all 4 cores), In the generation I remember it was written.

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    I was just about to write this - originally the TDP of the new processors on Intel's site was 95W and just yesterday evening it was changed to 91W. It is interesting to know how Lior Matityahu knew that their TDP was 91W even though Intel's official information was incorrect.

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  31. It is not clear to me why they do not bother to point out more on the official site than the turbo frequency according to the number of cores, since the frequency that is always mentioned today is only a combination frequency or 2 when all the cores are together the lower frequency (usually 100 / 200Hz more per 4 cores) In the first generation I remember that they would point out.

    This information exists on Intel's website, you just have to look it up. Here is the information about the Core i7 processors:
    http://www.intel.com/support/processors/corei7/sb/CS-032279.htm
    And here is the information about the Core i5 processors:
    http://www.intel.com/support/processors/corei5/sb/CS-032278.htm

    I must point out that this is a disappointment:
    The fourth generation Core i7-4790K processor (Haswell) has 2 / 3 / 4 / 4 Turbo Boost bins for 4 / 3 / 2 / 1 cores in load, with one bin equal to 100MHz.
    The fifth-generation Core i7-5775C processor (Broadwell) has 3 / 3 / 4 / 4 turbo boost bins for 4 / 3 / 2 / 1 cores in load, with one bin equal to 100MHz.
    The sixth-generation Core i7-6700K processor (the Skylake) has 0 / 0 / 0 / 2 Turbo Boost bins for 4 / 3 / 2 / 1 cores in load, with one bin equal to 100MHz.
    This means that the turbo frequency in the Core i7-6700K processor will hardly be activated, since only if the load is on just one core will the processor receive the extra frequency (which in itself is quite small and stands at only 200MHz).

    Explanation (I'll explain for the Core i7-4790K processor) - The 4 overload cores have two bins, that is the addition of 200MHz to frequency. For 3 load cores, there are three bins, ie 300MHz increment to frequency, and in case of one or two cores load, there are four bins, ie 400MHz frequency increment (this is the turbo frequency advertised on Intel's site and is equal to 4400MHz to one of 400MHz's The above).

    Even in the case of the Core i5-6600K processor the situation has changed in this respect compared to the Core i5-4690K processor:
    The fourth-generation Core i5-4690K processor (Haswell) has 2 / 3 / 4 / 4 Turbo Boost bins for 4 / 3 / 2 / 1 cores in load, with one bin equal to 100MHz.
    The fifth-generation Core i5-5675C processor (Broadwell) has 4 / 4 / 5 / 5 turbo boost bins for 4 / 3 / 2 / 1 cores in load, with one bin equal to 100MHz.
    The sixth-generation Core i5-6600K processor (the Skylake) has 1 / 2 / 3 / 4 Turbo Boost bins for 4 / 3 / 2 / 1 cores in load, with one bin equal to 100MHz.

  32. Thanks smalul, usually Intel's site is less convenient for me and I would find the information on the CPU World already there on the turbo frequency processor page information, it is currently detailed to the fifth generation I guess they will soon update the sixth generation even though it already exists on the Intel for 2 new processors.
    In any case a disappointment, it seems that the models with the enclosed frequency will lower the frequency but no problem to guess how it will work and what turbo frequency will reach all the cores together
    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i7/Intel-Core%20i7-6700.html
    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5-6600.html
    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5-6500.html
    http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Core_i5/Intel-Core%20i5-6400.html

  33. Anyone see 6700K in stock in America?
    Delivery times say October!
    How does Intel supposedly launch two processors (or 4 to include the K-free versions) but of which only 2 is available for purchase?

    And why does the country have inventory and America doesn't ?!

  34. If you shop there why not consider Trinity X99? : /

    And I guess there are production lines in the country.

  35. Intel will not sell a product in its own country, everything goes for export (for benefits).
    Importers in the country ordered a bigger stock than they needed and the US ordered less. In the country people expected to rush to buy and it did not happen, in the US wanted to come to a disadvantage so it could drop the price and make a bigger profit.

  36. Even in NCIX Canada, the 5820K costs "only" 50 more than 6700K. The price of his memory is the same volume and on the board you will pay another 50-60 dollars more.
    The difference is not huge for climbing a platform that offers you tens of percent more processing power

  37. A little bit locked on the Asus Deluxe (be it X99 or Z170)
    Z170 Deluxe - 399 $ Canadian
    X99 Deluxe - 534 $ Canadian (USB3.1 version because there is no stock of the original model that costs 439)
    6700K costs 469 $ Canadian
    5820K costs 510 $ Canadian

  38. Okay, so 600 is easier for 5820K + X99 Deluxe USB3.1 compared to 6700K + Z170 Deluxe.
    Is there any doubt here what should be done?

  39. "I ran Battlefield 4 at 1280X720 resolution under Medium settings. This game saw a difference of 44 percent in favor of 6700K and its built-in graphical core, HD 530."
    45FPS vs 38FPS Is it 44% improvement? what?!

  40. "I ran Battlefield 4 at 1280X720 resolution under Medium settings. This game saw a difference of 44 percent in favor of 6700K and its built-in graphical core, HD 530." 45FPS vs 38FPS Is that 44% improvement? what?!

    I think it was supposed to be 55FPS
    Jumping 17FPS on 38 is 44%

  41. Just for sports and general knowledge.
    Anyone know how much (in terms of electricity) a set of 4790K and 780TI cost for two months?
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    ........................... ..
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    Here is the answer …… ..
    .............

    Working an average of 8 hours a day will cost you about NIS 200 per month!

    I sold this array about 5 months ago and my last electricity bills dropped by 200 NIS !!!
    And that's without OC on my part…
    simply incredible!
    That's about NIS X per year!

  42. "I ran Battlefield 4 at 1280X720 resolution under Medium settings. This game saw a difference of 44 percent in favor of 6700K and its built-in graphical core, HD 530." 45FPS vs 38FPS Is that 44% improvement? what?!

    Thanks for noticing, updating the result, it should be 55FPS

  43. Just for sports and general knowledge. Anyone know how much (in terms of electricity) a set of 4790K and 780TI cost for two months? ................................................................ ............ .................... Here's the answer ........ ........ ..... Working an average of 8 hours a day will cost you about NIS 200 per month! - I sold this array about 5 months ago and my last electricity bills dropped by NIS 200 !!! And that's without OC on my part ... just amazing! That's about NIS X per year!

    A little problematic calculation.
    First of all, what do you multiply by 8 daily hours?
    An average person most of the day at work comes home at 6 in the evening (average, some are earlier and some are later). That leaves an 5-6 roof for hours until you go to sleep.
    From that time (suppose you sit on your computer every day for about NumXX hours) do you go online? Reading some news on HWZONE? See some videos? At this time, such hardware is far from "pulling" maximum power.
    Maybe if you're a kid in school and you come home and sit down and play on your computer until you go to sleep….
    But then parents pay the electricity so what do you care 🙂

  44. There is no point at all to beginning to ponder the calculations of the hours because the basis of the basis of the argument is wrong from the ground up.
    What is the connection between the general electricity bill and the consumption of a specific video card sold at one time or another, and more precisely in the last two months that has just entered the summer….
    The change in the electricity bill is much more likely to result from, for example, the increased use of the air conditioner.

  45. Is it worth investing an extra of NIS 400 into the specification for the new technology or why the 6600k will not reach the 4790k frequencies?

  46. url] http://plonter.com/detail.tmpl?sku=BX80662I76700K [/ url]
    The I7 6700 is already available in Plonter - 1750 / 1786

    http://plonter.co.il/detail.tmpl?sku=BX80662I76700K
    
    				
  47. From what I understand the processors no longer come with a stock fan.
    Most of the target audience also buys more advanced cooling. And even if you want cheap cooling then you add another 50 and have basic cooling

  48. ^ 1690 at STARTPC and it may be the BOX.

    1690 for cash, with cheaper TMS credit. But if it is the BOX version then it is worth investing the extra 20.

  49. The option of exercising responsibility with Intel is definitely worth the 50-100 NIS addition in my opinion.

  50. In total it is NIS 20… I wouldn't call it a waste of money. The difference was big .. But everyone's opinion. I personally like to keep the boxes of the hardware I purchased and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Intel's plan for anyone who wants it, and if you want to sell the processor second hand I'm sure there will be more demand for the BOX processor, even though it is marginal. NIS 20 will not kill anyone, but your right to think how you want it.

  51. And to the rare acquaintances it does? The replacement store

    The store will not be able to replace if the distributor goes bankrupt.

  52. And I feel like I'm talking to a towering miser. Maybe you really talk to a kid you know. I have stated twice if not more that this is my opinion. If you can't accept the opinions of others then I'm sorry but you're the one who acts like a kid ... In short I don't have the mental strength to argue with you, so let's blow your ego a little and sum it up by being a kid and you're the one right here.

  53. By the way, the big advantage of Skylake processors lies in video encoding.
    Intel in good time improved the new AVX command set, AVX2, although it existed in previous generations but for some reason did not work.
    On the Core i7-6700K processor once the AVX set is turned on, it leaves dust even for the 6 ~ 8 cores, just unbelievable…
    In my opinion SkyLake processors are "paradise" for video editors.

  54. NIS 20 will not kill anyone, but these are NIS 20 that you can save. Sometimes I think I talk to kids.

    Older people who have 1700 easy to spend on a processor are not really excited about shitty 20. And if they give the benefits mentioned in the previous comments - then I will.

  55. By the way, the big advantage of Skylake processors lies in video encoding. Intel in good time improved the new AVX command set, AVX2, although it existed in previous generations but for some reason did not work. On the Core i7-6700K processor as soon as the AVX set is enabled, it leaves dust even for the 6 ~ 8 cores, just unbelievable ... In my opinion SkyLake processors are "heaven" for video editors.

    In my understanding, this is about individual software.
    media espresso

  56. I believe Adobe will integrate and also lose, and maybe Fusion.
    Adobe has always worked collaboratively with Intel.

  57. All FFMPEG and X264 based versions of the latest versions support X264. Why the big difference?

  58. The big advantage for BOX processor, beyond responsibility with Intel, is the option to purchase their OC insurance and then get a new processor without question if you want (bad overclocker, burned out, new rev out…)

  59. Intel Thermal Solution, Another Ivy / Haswell Round ?!
    
    

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/9505/skylake-cpu-package-analysis

    Personally, I thought that by the end of the fourth generation, Intel would not come back to save users and fight cooling for generations to come. So I thought ..
    I wanted to do DELID for my processor so I researched a bit.
    And I found that the processors are soldered and the ointment versions that the manuals see are developed and examples.

  60. What's wrong? Wasting money, I have never exercised responsibility for processors and until recently I had E6300 that was in 3.0Ghz OC for at least 6 years and was not destroyed to this day. It is simply an element that the warranty does not apply to because it does not need it. And to the rare acquaintances it does? 

    The replacement store, because overall if there is a processor problem it is hard to miss it.

    I'm pretty sure most stores in the country will try to shake you off first before replacing you ...

  61. I'm pretty sure most stores in the country will try to shake you off first before replacing you ...

    Why?

  62. Why?

    Because they are shit.
    Because it is easier to wave a customer than to enter the process of licensing and replacing a processor with the manufacturer / importer / wattower.
    Even though in practice they will get a new processor that the processor will actually charge, it is still a procedure, a job, a time….

  63. Do not agree with you. As long as it's not a financial expense for a store, I can't believe they won't be replaced.

  64. Personally, I have never encountered a burnt processor due to extreme heat either, since Intel introduced automatic shutdown of the processor many years ago in such cases.
    I believe most of these will be due to incorrect connection or physical damage, such as demolition of the condenser at the bottom.
    It seems to me that Intel will not replace these cases either.

  65. It has not been possible to burn heat-processed processors since about 2000…
    The only way I know how to burn a processor is through extreme and extreme stress, and that was years ago .. I wouldn't be surprised if today's defenses are against it too.

  66. Can something be sharpened here?

    You may have already registered
    BOX versions with no refrigeration, just more beautiful packaging as in extreme extras

  67. Cyril, you might ask, how many processors since the sandy bridge generation have come back to you? (Does not require an exact number, more towards estimation)

  68. Currently not against a system but a large percentage of RMA in processors less than 0.3 percent for years.

  69. From generation to generation, Intel improves the percentages of repetition processors responsibly. I remember there was some great retailer who posted strong numbers. Of course, these cards had Asus and EVGA with the least, and processors each generation cut a few dozen percent back compared to its predecessor. 4790K was already 0.2%. This is one of every 500.

  70. Finally they realized that a half-inch heat sink LP couldn't really cool anything beyond the i3 T…

  71. David, understand it or not. It is sold separately for a cheap price ($ 37-$ 45) and does not come as a bundle as before. And it's not at all certain that its performance will be better than other products that can be bought for a similar amount. Of course, you have to wait for reviews.

  72. I keep bothering me with the thought of how the K-processor thermal solution was designed for overclockers. Someone has to give judgment, and nobody wants to.

  73. David, understood or did not understand. It is a product that is sold 

    Separately at a cheap price (37-45 $) and does not come as a bundle as before. And it's not at all certain that its performance will be better than other products that can be bought for a similar amount. Of course, you have to wait for reviews.
    http://www.overclock.net/t/1569443/akiba-genuine-skylake-intel-stock-cooler-released-over-2x-the-size-of-previous-cooler
    If so, that's a joke, because at 30 bucks you can already buy a pretty cool cooler for a nice overclock.

  74. 30 This is at least 10 more than the CM Hyper 212. I'm pretty sure when you get to the stores, that kind of cooler from Intel won't cost more than $ 1, I hope.

  75. On the other hand, at least fewer people will cry that their computer is boiling because they were sure that the cooling provided by Intel is not enough…

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