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Expensive but groundbreaking: Everything you need to know about the Radeon R9 Nano

The card that promises In a tiny package is fully exposed and surprisingly successful, yet it may disappoint many of those waiting for it

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Yesterday (the 27 in August) was the day that may be remembered as the beginning of a new era in the graphics processing world - thanks to the official launch of the R9 Nano.

Official reviews are still not available, which probably indicates that the launch date is very close to the time when the products began to fall off production lines (which in turn made it impossible for the card to be accepted and completed inspections prior to launch) It also has its own - which is why you can already understand the direction the manufacturer has chosen for this unique product. Here's everything you need to know.

Source: videocardz.com
Source: videocardz.com

It's small

We knew that from the first moment we saw him. The R9 Nano takes up two slots in the package based on the Its air, and its length is only six inches - about 2 inches, which makes it a heavenly gift for the mini-ITX boards and the compact chassis that only supports them.

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There is no doubt here - the R9 Nano is the most powerful thing you can include in the tiny Mini-ITX configuration, and by far. However, as you will find out later - it will cost us a lot more than we wished.

It is powerful

To date, the most powerful, compact graphics card available on the market was the GeForce GTX 970, which was offered by several 7-inch manufacturers (about 18 centimeters). The R9 Nano is not only an even smaller one, 6-inch, but it also ensures better performance by several tens of percent (about 30 percent in optimal condition, herself).

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The memories of the HBM, along with the full utilization of aging production technology in 28 nanometers, To create a product that is even more unique and powerful than we expected at the outset. Even if actual performance will be a little less impressive than "We are talking about a technological wonder in the full sense of the word, and all we have to do is say 'aspire' and at the same time try to imagine how amazing the double-core Fiji card that the red manufacturer is going to present in a few months.

Is expensive

Just as one cannot deny the impressive capabilities of this video card in relation to its size, so can it not be denied that the price of 650 dollars (about NIS 2,552 in direct conversion, and probably much more practically in the country) it set It's way too high.

The card, which is expected to offer performance similar to that of the GTX 980 and the Radeon Fury, will have a hard time justifying a price higher in 100 to 150 dollars, all the more so considering the huge speed capabilities of the competitor (Which apparently will not have a real answer from AMD here either).

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On the other hand, those who will be able to invest 650 dollars on their graphics card will be able to find the GTX 980 Ti and the Fury X, Are several times better than the R9 Nano, and even dimensions that are not much larger in the case of the Fury X (about 10 inches long).

As you could see from the video that appeared a few paragraphs ago - the R9 Nano will be a practical solution and only pays for very compact and very specific systems. All other systems and consumers will be able to find much more winking offers, both of them And on the one hand herself.

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there's hope?

After we finish "slaughtering" the R9 Nano for its high price, it's time to take a step back and try to look at the big picture. Fresh product of Is one of the most important in the world of graphic processing in recent years, and is probably the first glimpse into the future of the entire field.

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Imagine the state of the market in about a year from now - with HBM2 technology delivering even higher volumes and memory performance in compact packaging like the one we see on Fury and R9 Nano today, and beyond the ultra-advanced FinFET production technology on 16 nm, Super compact as the Nano will be able to become the new standard in the field, with minimal compromises compared to the long tickets we now know.

The entire gaming world can be much more compact - double-core cards will no longer need to be monstrous in size (but the size of current "big" video cards), and probably notebooks can be much more powerful thanks to the trend that is starting to prove Now herself.

The R9 Nano is the beginning of a gaming revolution that will do better for all of us, even if it itself is not really relevant to most users
The R9 Nano is the beginning of a gaming revolution that will do better for all of us, even if it itself is not really relevant to most users

In a year or two, when you purchase a R9 Nano Power and Dimensions video card with less than half its current price - remember that without this lucrative video card, this trend would probably have been delayed considerably.

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  1. Due to the delusional and uncompetitive pricing, AMD can be likened to a freer / gentleman flattening the mud so that the pretty girl (nvidia) climbs her back and crosses the puddle :)

    This dear card and boundary-breaking position is the last thing a company in AMD needs. They are in desperate need of sales (and lots) rather than compliments.

    It will not be long before nvidia makes better cards with similar or better technology, about this groundbreaking card.

  2. And despite everything - they will continue to fall for their failed drivers, time after time after time after time after time.

  3. Most gamers have ATX cases, so who cares what the length of the card?
    For that pay double…

  4. The market is shrinking. There is a trend towards more and more compact gaming computers. Such a product certainly has a market, just not at this painful premium price.
    Either way, the power of GTX 980 under such size and power is a significant technological achievement…. Until Anodia starts using HBM at least, too.

  5. Someone who builds this concept computer may fit, and then he will also be willing to pay double. :)

    In principle, I dislike long, electric, and warming cards. For this reason I always buy a midrange and make sure to find one compact.

    In any case even in the high-end (eg GTX970) you can find short cards that do not cost more than "normal", but are not super-short like this one.

  6. I thought it would be the FURY to justify this series, it turned out to be the most unnecessary card of all three.
    It's a pretty good attempt to create a new segment of high-end ITX but from what has been published in the past two days, about price, but also availability, but the application seems as bad as you could think.
    I also don't believe AMD's benches, they proved to be completely irrelevant. As with FURY-X then Nano will give similar performance to 970 with OC at relevant 1080 and even 1440 resolutions

  7. According to pricing, AMD probably doesn't hang all of them on this card, it's a showoff card that is more designed to make waves and make headlines than to create competition or threaten (if at all possible) the competitor.

  8. If they had a drop of brain they would cancel the normal FURY, change the name of FURY X to FURY and use FIJI PRO for NANO only. Especially since the full FIJI will not be used by the NANO and in hot countries, they will not be able to maintain 900MHZ.
    They would have stayed with the most powerful ITX at a more reasonable price and had fewer stock problems.

  9. "Multiple Catch - Don't Catch"
    Agree with HuGeMouTh. They knew in advance that they would have problems with chip stock problems. They know that they have a severe market share problem in general.
    How do they find the justification for putting out such a "choponi" product in the current situation is not clear to me ..

    At the right price, in principle, people would buy it en masse - it presents all the advantages with minimum disadvantages of Fiji. But it is also theoretical that in any case there is not enough of it.
    In order to balance demand, they raised a price to a level of irrelevance. Also a method. Only in their state of "Wow you will see some economical little advanced card" will be canceled against "it is so expensive that it was better not to exist at all and again you do not meet your own expectations" and including the bad vibe that hovers over AMD in the latter.

  10. Most gamers have ATX enclosures, so who cares what the length of the card is? For that pay double ...

    I switched my computer from ATX to HTPC with the 970GTX Mini ITX + Mini ITX video card. Compact gaming is the future.

    I debated whether to wait for R9 or buy 970GTX. The rumors spoke of the price of 500-550 $ to R9. The 650 card is not relevant to most gamers.

  11. AMD did not shoot itself in the foot when it released mighty ATHLON processors just over a decade ago that brought it to fame
    AMD has not shot itself in the leg with a Joker retreat called Radeon 9800 on 2003.
    She did not shoot herself in the leg when she had to give a quick answer to GF8000 and did a twist with HD 4000

    Maybe, she might bring another brilliant exit to save her from the abyss. Maybe. I hope that it will continue to exist, only as a brand that holds water and raises a fair price, and not one that asks for a premium price without justification from the customer.

  12. Whatever it was in the past, lately they saw the race they sit on and on until they finally fall off the tree.

    The past successes will not save this company, and certainly not the current puzzling behavior.

  13. AMD has not shot itself in the leg with a Joker retreat called Radeon 9800 on 2003.

    To the best of my memory the breakout was with the 9700, with Anoydia all that was the Geforce FX 5800 which was mostly "noise and ringtones" (literally). I still remember the web parodies about his Blower.

  14. They are out of habits, they are now focusing on the upper extremities and more critical areas.
    With the price of nanomaterials, it is now possible to erase the pricing grace that benefits the consumer.
    In the not too distant past, they were considered to be the most advantageous, even if not the absolute, strong performance.
    With HBM they are behind both indices, and are measuring behind them NV.

  15. No matter what it was in the past, lately they saw the race they sit on and on until they finally fall from it. This company's habit is bleeding in 20 places because of the nonsense they do. Giving up on past successes (from the ATI era) will not save AMD, and certainly not the current puzzling behavior. Consumers (in every market, even in gaming) have a short memory, and most often do not maintain youthful kindness, and rightly so. I personally doubt the company's ability to rebuild, with all my appreciation for the best AMD cards and processors I've had over the years. Plus, I don't think the nano price is justified, 

    In my opinion, he is half right. The thing is, the smart thing for them was to price it at a competitive price and sell lots of it, thus restoring their dismal condition.

    It's a really special card, and it's a pity that AMD is not in a better place to really enjoy the development cows.

    Much of what you write is true and you can see it in the analysis of market share. HD5000 and HD6000 were the successes of AMD and came much after they bought the ATI while the HD2000 was a failure and came immediately after the buy.
    In addition, MANTLE and HBM have shown that AMD has more to offer, a good starting point for the next generation and NANO proves that they do not need excessive power to achieve these results. The question is whether this time too they can realize these advantages as they did with the ATHLON 64 or again knock out a good idea as they did with the FX (which led them to the terrible situation they are in today).

  16. They are out of habits, they are now focusing on the upper extremities and more critical areas.
    With the price of nanomaterials, it is now possible to erase the pricing grace that benefits the consumer.
    In the not too distant past, they were considered to be the most advantageous, even if not the absolute, strong performance.
    With HBM they are behind both indices, and are measuring behind them NV.

  17. I believe another company will take its place, it seems unlikely that only one company will hold this entire market. I believe Intel (or Samsung) will buy AMD just before the crash and start putting up a green competition in two to three years.

  18. Intel will not buy AMD, the more likely options are Samsung, QUALCOMM and maybe MEDIATEK.
    In any case, such a move will probably be only after the exit of ZEN and the following video cards (GCN only at 16 / 14nm).

  19. Somehow I still hope (for them) that all the strange "launch" so far and especially the price is an exercise that prepares the ground for a surprise ...
    They can not demand more than $ 600 and it makes sense to compare its price to that of the normal FURY by about $ 500.

  20. Yes, I saw and sampled a few pages to see what it was all about… It became a pretty fast monster. It is amazing to see what strengths, sensitivity, lack of interest in objectivity (and trollism) people also come up with on such a marginal topic that ultimately pertains to something that is a luxury (graphics card for computer games).
    For that matter - don't see what's going on for AMD from denying a ticket to top sites.
    At best, this is indicative of the most serious lack of product availability (and it fits in with the exorbitant price) and will become a worthy competitor to TITAN Z when it comes to availability and feasibility.
    In the bad case, the card is so far removed from their statements that they are trying to reduce the disdain of what is to come about Nano, after all the (as usual) statements they have issued. It would already finalize the fiasco called Fiji and crown their "pre-match" with HBM as a colossal failure, perhaps more than a bulldozer.

  21. The Fury all disappointed.
    The best AMD has in my opinion is the 290 / X and 390 / X.
    They market it as a better 30% than XITUM's mITX version. Do you understand how sad it is? ..
    This explains to me very well why they do not bring criticism to the TPU and HardOCP.
    Very disappointing..

    And the whole thing about the Async Compute is just waves, in the end most of the respected developers at Nevidia's pocket ..

    Sometimes I don't know if AMD is paying money to the stupid bunch on Reddit, etc. who promote them out of blind worship.

  22. The worship comes from a place to balance competition and encourage the underdog. It's something that exists in every field that has underdogs

  23. url]http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/09/09/amd_roy_taylor_nano_press/1#.VfFAFxGrRD8[/url]
    Briefly a PR representative from AMD informed them that the "focus" and Nano product nature is not aimed at their readership of the site, H [ardocp - so they are not given an example.
    AMD thinks it is fair to have Nano fair coverage, so only sites with the "right focus" have an example. Implicit in this statement is that any site that has not been given an example is unfair = coverage may not be positive for the product.
    Another well-known site will not accept the Nano for coverage, but has prepared an article precisely about the reasons.
    A little behind the scenes of the PR world, specific to AMD in this case.

    http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/09/09/amd_roy_taylor_nano_press/1#.VfFAFxGrRD8
    Briefly a PR representative from AMD informed them that the "focus" and Nano product nature is not aimed at their readership of the site, H [ardocp - so they are not given an example. AMD thinks it is fair to have Nano fair coverage, so only sites with the "right focus" have an example. Implicit in this statement is that any site that has not been given an example is unfair = coverage may not be positive for the product.
  24. This is a classic PR step.

    There is no such thing as bad advertising, here is a fact that sites are writing about it (even negative), and we are also discussing it - put the product in the headlines, and that's the best post there is.
    Even if the rest of the product comes to the reviews and kills him, everyone is already talking about him and interested in him.

  25. Not sure that this is their direct intention. They just want to get good reviews for a product that seems to be the most problematic to say the least.
    Everything else is perhaps a "bonus" of bad publicity. After all, they know that the card will not meet the expectations they create and will not meet the reality test of objective coverage.
    It seems that in the prevention of examples from sites they first annoy them and cause them to write articles against what creates a lot (negative) exposure. Later on, when those sites obtain (and are sure to obtain) a coverage card, anything bad or unfavorable that they will write will immediately be labeled as objective and will be thrown into the trash because of their first attack.
    My expectations for Nano are zero at the moment - this is a collector's card, which is perhaps intended for 2% of the gamers, which may account for 10% of the total computer industry. It stands on its own, facing itself as and as such it should not employ the vast majority of people.

  26. My first impression of the current reviews -
    It's a card that fits who is willing to compromise on almost every possible parameter and is willing to pay a lot more for it.
    Sure there are a few individuals who fit the profile and may be able to get their hands on this little one.

  27. Do not know which people are willing to pay so much for Mini ITX gaming

    If you have no problem of space - go wild in size and earn a performance price

    If you are mobile - regulation is already mobile, you will get less performance, even with the mini versions, but you will get high mobility.

  28. I do not know what's sadder.
    The price of the Nano, or the hypocritical critics who give it a high score.
    "The goal is the GTX 970 Mini" - they are at exactly the same price.

  29. Sad indeed.
    If it is placed in front of ITX970 in a small package then it is twice as expensive and much more noisy and consumes more power (for very small packages it is a consideration) and very hot, which lowers the performance to 10-20 above 970 only.
    But AMD has chosen to compare them to 4K (which makes no sense because it doesn't have HDMI2 for the same small system that will sit in the living room) and since it's a performance level of 980 from Costam, it's already known that it's irrelevant territory.
    So what did they actually do? Took FURY-X, replaced the water cooling fan, kept the same price and in return gave low performance at 10-15%. Genius for her name.

  30. interesting.

    I definitely see how a bunch of users will start putting together MINI ITX just for having a reason to buy it.

    Sometimes a product answers a certain niche, and sometimes it creates it.

  31. url] http://www.overclock.net/f/50/small-form-factor-systems [/ url]
    [url] http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=102 [/ url]
    What's interesting is that AMD chose not to send a card to HARDOCP even though they have a respectable community of small computers.
    I updated my previous message that one of the videos was PREVIEW instead of the review itself.
    The SFF market exists and grows each year, AMD did not create a niche, they provided the best product in the category. The problem is that the price is far from reasonable.
    Here is the 2 Forums for Life on Small Computers:

    http://www.overclock.net/f/50/small-form-factor-systems
    
    
    http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=102
    What's interesting is that AMD chose not to send a card to HARDOCP even though they have a respectable community of small computers.
  32. Doesn't seem reliable guru's test, especially the test they did after oc, seems like extra oc is so small, bouncing it so high

  33. There is nothing to believe here, if the card maintains the frequency of the FURY X performance will be about the same, as it appears that GCN 1.2 is very used to frequency changes (both in terms of performance and in terms of power).
    For the rest, your comments are poor… only 10-20% of what GTX970 is equivalent to GTX980 In most cases, the higher consumption is performance-enhancing. The comparison to the 970 ITX is correct because eventually anyone who buys an ITX card has no other option.
    Do yourself a favor and at least try to be less transparent or admit that you are simply NVIDIA FANBOYS and do not care that this card is a tiny technological wonder that NVIDIA cannot currently compete with.
    The positive responses come from people who appreciate the technology needed to create this card, all relate to noise (which comes from coils and also GTX970) and all relate to the delusional price.

    After all this I stayed in my previous position, the FURY had to be canceled, used its NANO cores and lowered the price by $ 100 which will be close to GTX980. At the moment, the card is just for the crazy people to talk to and as they said in PCPER, it seems that the stock is so small that AMD will sell these crazy people their entire stock anyway.

  34. There is nothing to believe here, if the card maintains the frequency of the FURY X performance will be about the same, as GCN 1.2 appears to be very sensitive to frequency changes (both in terms of performance and power consumption). For the rest, your comments are poor ... Only 10-20% of what GTX970 is equivalent to GTX980 In most cases, the higher consumption is better than performance. The comparison to the 970 ITX is correct because eventually anyone who buys an ITX card has no other option. Do yourself a favor and at least try to be less transparent or admit that you are simply NVIDIA FANBOYS and do not care that this card is a tiny technological wonder that NVIDIA cannot currently compete with. The positive responses come from people who appreciate the technology needed to create this card, all relate to noise (which comes from coils and also exists at GTX970) and all relate to the delusional price. After all this I stayed in my previous position, the FURY had to be canceled, used its NANO cores and lowered the price by $ 100 which will be close to GTX980. At the moment, the card is just for the crazy people to talk to and as they said in PCPER, it seems that the stock is so small that AMD will sell these crazy people their entire stock anyway.
    I'm not a fanboy of any company, I'm a fanboy of what's more worth my money. And there are people with mini-ITX like Node 304 who support huge cards like 390 STRIX. Its price should have been much more competitive especially with these noises (library quite):
    
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCKYnQZb6gw
    A very meaningless gimmick in my opinion. And I come back to what I said, the 390 is the only one of AMD's worth buying.
  35. This card is great in what it is trying to achieve and it completely does not negate the fact that it is the most unnecessary card issued in the series FURY.
    He has no competitors and will not be in the near future. It does not contradict the fact that it is not worthwhile and I do not see any situation I recommend to anyone.
    It is an engineering marvel that implements technological superiority-a milestone of proper vision. At the same time, it is an incomparable failure, a card that cuts critical corners and misses its very (esoteric) goal (noise, without HDMI2).
    This is the most WOW card and also the most unnecessary and disappointing and illogical that AMD could present, especially in their current state.
    A dazzling peach of everything in the end is left with nothing and loses all directions.
    A boutique company that produces boutique cards for a boutique market. If they are aiming they seem to be on the right track.
    The problem is that we're all going to lose a lot.

  36. The fan is really quite library like AMD said, the noise is all electronic components and can be arranged. As I said this noise also exists in GTX 970, by the way if you check you will see that the 970 ITX that came out did a lot of problems, the GB had a lot of DOA and overheating, the Inno3D had severe warming issues and ASUS also had more returns than usual. The GALAX / KFA2 card looks fine but it is not very quiet and it does not have enough beams to know if there is a problem or not. The engineering of these cards is very challenging, both companies are far from putting out an appropriate product, but the NANO will suit early adopters who usually do not mind paying a lot of money.

    About the ITX enclosures that can be inserted into a large video card, these are 17 liter and more enclosures or packages with lots of compromise (CPU cooling / storage). Such a card makes it possible to design an 10-12 liter pack (and even less) that the only compromise is the size of the video card (and NANO proves we're very close to the day that this compromise will be meaningless).

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