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Good news, bad news: first review of the leading Skylake processor

First review for new generation processor Which will be launched early next month presents us with an addition Another one-digit percentage, ostensibly

We already know With almost absolute certainty That a pair of processors from the new generation of Intel Will be launched on 5 in August As replacements To the Devil's Canyon workers The successful ones launched a year and a half ago. All we have left now is to wait patiently and wonder about the improved capabilities and performance that might be waiting for us . A seemingly authentic first review from a site called techbang.com purports to provide us with the answers we're looking for right now.

The Chinese site criticized the chip maker's new flagship processor (and then downgraded - perhaps due to Intel or other official requirements, and perhaps simply because it was inaccurate or incorrect), suggesting that Core i7-6700K Quad-core versus Core i7-4790K The core quadrant comes mainly from its more advanced built-in graphics core.

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As part of PCMark, Cinebench, 3DMark and Sandra, PC processor benchmark tests The Skylake Introduced improvements ranging from single percentages to 29 percentages - although the biggest improvements came, as mentioned, in multimedia and graphical tests that were most significantly affected by the new graphical kernel, which would quite clearly be 20 to 30 percent more powerful than the processor's The corresponding Haswell (thanks to 48 execution units in i7-6700K, as opposed to 20 units only i7-4790K).

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Disappointingly, in a number of tests seemingly performed independently of the graphical core, but based on the same dedicated video card - the i7-4790K actually managed to provide a result that is slightly better than that of the i7-6700K, even though both models operate at identical frequencies and with the same thermal envelope.

In weighing all the results, we are looking at an improvement of approximately 7 in performance for the Skylake - most of which is due to the more advanced built-in graphics core and the fast DDR4 memory
In considering all the results, we are looking at an improvement of about 7 percent performance in favor of the Skylake - most of which is thanks to the more advanced built-in graphics core and memory Fastest

It should be noted that the processor tested in the audit is an Engineering Sample, when in past generations we had the opportunity to see quite a few leaks that were based on similarly classified models and offered characteristics and performance that proved to be inaccurate in retrospect - therefore, not to be seen here in the official launch class A little more worthy of the new generation.

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The Claymore Z170 board of the company , Which was used to carry out the said audit

However, the general feeling is that also In the era of the sixth Core We will see most of the technological improvement that comes from the transition to production in 14 nanometer lithography is 'invested' and aimed at the built-in graphics core, The expensive and advanced i7-6700K will not use the same HD Graphics core that will in any case be a bottleneck for the performance potential of the general processing cores. Have we really reached the limit on CPU cores, and now the only option is to start increasing the number of cores?

Is it possible to begin to be upset or is there still hope? You are welcome to begin sharing your speculations and assessments here with comments.

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  1. = っ ◕‿◕) っ ℜ ◯ ⓃУ; 5070557] [URL = "http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/unlocked-intel-skylake-s-processors-reportedly-coming-august-5th/"] [COLOR = # 0000ff] The wait for Skylake is almost over, first off
    The article reminds me of one of my recent comments from today on 03: 25 and it seems that according to the second link on 5 for August we will also see i5 6500 / 6600.

    
    
    
    
    The wait for Skylake is almost over, first desktop chips likely to hit August 5 - Digital Trends - July 6, 2015
    
    
    
    
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    Intel HEDT and Desktop Roadmap 2015 to 2H 2016 Leaked - Skylake-S Mainstream and Budget Tiers and Broadwell-E Platform Detailed - WCCFtech - 3 hours ago
    
    
    
    
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    Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake flagship CPU benchmarks surface - Hexus - 13 July 2015
    
    
    
    				
  2. And that's exactly what it is. Engineering example.
    In one of the recent exhibitions or conferences, they gave a taste of SKYLAKE, which left a gaping jaw.
    Do not forget that SKYLAKE comes with a new FINFET. _ (How much will they manage to improve it ..? Wait for the hawks)
    One thing hurts me in this article, that 4790K is successful. so no! It's really not good!
    Although on all 10000 processors there was one perfect processor (but still not justified to call this whole model successful) _ (there are examples of particularly high OC but again ... 1 to 10000)
    It's a total CPU with an OC whose average ceiling is 4.6GHZ. _ (So not so good) (especially that heat emission overwhelms him)

    Let us hope that this is not the case with SKYLAKE

  3. To OFIR HADAD
    It is not true what you say. The CORE 2 DUO series was a significant improvement over the Pentium D which was actually two Pentium 4 cores in one processor. Then came the CORE series with the I7 which again brought about a significant improvement. But yes, after that, after SANDY BRIDGE on 2011, there were no major improvements in processing power per core, in fact since we are more or less stuck, and it seems that it will continue to do so in the years to come based on the results here ... We may have actually reached a stage where the average user has not Really need more than that? Or it happens simply because there is no competition at these levels so Intel invests entirely in its mobile processors, where there is great competition from the ARM processors.

  4. If AMD had continued to provide competition the situation would have looked different.
    But because AMD retired, they have no reason to really move forward.

    Once again AMD is destroying the market.

  5. And that's exactly what it is. Engineering example. At one of the recent exhibitions or conferences we gave a taste of SKYLAKE, which left jaws wide open. Don't forget that SKYLAKE also comes with a new FINFET. _ (How well will you be able to optimize it ..? We'll wait for the Benz) One thing hurts my eye in this article, that 4790K is successful. so no! He's really unsuccessful! While on all 10000 processors there was one perfect processor (but still not justified to call this whole model successful) _ (there are examples of ultra high OC but again ... 1 to 10000) It is just a processor with OC whose average ceiling is 4.6GHZ. _ (So not so successful) (especially that the heat emission decides it) - Let's hope that's not the case at SKYLAKE

    Is relatively good for other processors in the generation and in general its processing power is vast OC is not all

  6. If this is another generation with negligible improvement it is definitely excellent in my opinion.
    There is no need to worry at all if upgrading Intel has solved the problem for us consumers.
    Anyone with an 5 or first generation i2 processor can simply have fun with it.
    Until the processor becomes an inhibitor for a single video card, it will take a few more years and it will not (inhibitory) cause there is simply no reason and no reason to replace it (for gamers). DX12 is coming soon and should give a boost to older processors as well. This march instead saves the simple consumer a lot of money on upgrades that would in any case not justify themselves.
    All content creators, who earn a living and spend time = money, actually see a significant improvement in performance here, and this translates into higher productivity and justification for upgrading.

    It is illogical and quite painful to complain. As if someone must forcefully, contrary to his will, upgrade even though it does him no good.

  7. If this is another generation with negligible improvement it is definitely excellent in my opinion. There is no need to worry at all if upgrading Intel has solved the problem for us consumers. Anyone with an 5 or first generation i2 processor can simply have fun with it. Until the processor becomes an inhibitor for a single video card, it will take a few more years and it will not (inhibitory) cause there is simply no reason and no reason to replace it (for gamers). DX7 is coming soon and should give a boost to older processors as well. This march instead saves the simple consumer a lot of money on upgrades that would in any case not justify themselves. All content creators, who earn a living and spend time = money, actually see a significant improvement in performance here, and this translates into higher productivity and justification for upgrading. It is illogical and quite painful to complain. As if someone must forcefully, contrary to his will, upgrade even though it does him no good.
    Oh, that's not entirely true. There is a considerable IPC improvement between Sandy and SkyLake (and facing Haswell, too). As for approx. Single screen you are right. As for an array of two cards and above - I had to upgrade 2600K @ 4.5GHZ because it wasn't strong enough and choked in BF4 on 86%. 4930K solved this problem.
  8. Round it. The point is simple - either there is a very significant improvement and then it is worth upgrading or not and then it is simply unnecessary.
    Cards Arrangements - These are people who have mentally prepared themselves for large expenses with a previously known diminishing marginal value. They are outstanding and constitute a very small percentage to the negligible extent of the PC community. But even in my argument, valid - only upgrade when there is real justification, until then no one forces you to upgrade. There is no fundamental CPU power problem that requires you to upgrade every generation because the processor is constantly choked. The limiting factor is always the GPU.

  9. Keep going. Who wants to buy a trinity every two years ??

    The point is that if and when you lose a component that is not worth replacing on your computer, you will buy a new one at the same amount +/- and you will get the same performance as you did three years ago.

  10. The point is that if and when you lose a component that is not worth replacing on your computer, you will buy a new one at the same amount +/- and you will get the same performance as you did three years ago.

    Sandy and Haswell are separated by three years and five months. You won't get the same performance (don't you like your 4790K anymore?), The Haswell is better. Jumping two to three generations upgrades is smart (I take out HEDT processors such as their management, SNB / IVB / HSW-W), Kenya every generation is silly.

  11. The point is that if and when you lose a component that is not worth replacing on your computer, you will buy a new one at the same amount +/- and you will get the same performance as you did three years ago.

    Very good point.

    If this is the case then the problem is, of course, that these processors do not show improvement but do require upgrading chipset / resident
    Sin for crime

  12. Apart from a severe lack of competition in the CPU field, there is still something significant compared to the GPU market:
    There's nothing to strive for, there's no 4K-Ultra-144FPS-4 * AA- for the sparkling new AAA pushing AMD / NV.
    Most crushers simply have no shortage of CPU processing power.

    Strongly agree about the change of bracket that changes even though there is no justified change in performance.
    Intel's market segmentation for years and years has been working primarily against the consumer, but not only. I personally would consider switching to a K series or i7 processor or both, just like that for my fun, but it just made it irrelevant (I own i5-2400). So she lost the money I saved.

  13. But currently in the home markets (gaming / office / HTPC) really everyone is lined up with I5 even 2 generations back.
    The reality is that if there is no software that consumes the power of the hardware manufacturers do not progress

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    Intel Core i7-6700K Skylake Overclocked To 5.2 GHz With Air Cooling at 1.35V - WCCFtech - 6 hours ago
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Intel Core i5-6400T Low TDP Skylake CPU Tested - DDR3 vs DDR4 Comparisons Shown off on ECS H110 and Q170 Boards - WCCFtech - 5 hours ago
    
    
    
    				
  15. I've written before that Intel laughs at its customers all the way to the bank, they develop processors and change customer records at customer's expense without him feeling at all. (Business is really ingenious). They are developing I7 I3 I5 in several versions from the year so that we have to upgrade everything. (They enjoy the development of unique controllers on the boards if another market is added). And the essential difference between the models is processing units that are of no interest to the customer and not used at all. (They are more built for laptops in general) but development costs are expensive so they run the experiment on stationary processors to cover development costs. The active processing space on the processor (for a stationary position with an external video card on the board) is less than 40% of the total processor space…. Everything else is utilized to work unused graphical sound unit and other tests that help Intel promote sales. And that's just on the tip of the iceberg.

  16. The essential difference between the models is processing units (graphic, sound, etc.) that are of no interest to the customer and not used at all. These units are more built for laptops but development costs are expensive so they run the experiment on stationary processors to cover development costs. The active processing space on the processor (for a stationary position with an external video card on the board) is less than 40% of the total processor space (so all minimization issues should not interest the customer) .... Everything else is used for graphical unused sound unit and other tests that help Lantel is promoting sales.

    LOL

  17. This point is not far from the truth. In recent processors the graphical core and processor are divided almost half into physical space.

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    According to my calculation based on the technology past with full utilization of minimization + maximum processing space utilization (without the uninteresting add-ons) we were supposed to work on between 8 and 10GHZ (transverse heat layout) and amount of processors (beams) between 25 and 50 processing units and above
  19. Agree that this frequency is absolutely not minimal, but the frequency improvement is also very slow for some reason (interest may be).
    And minimizing, once the result of minimization was a much bigger improvement and today in the existing space as a result of minimizing putting in a graphical kernel then we didn't earn (I'm talking about those who really don't want that core there) too much of minimization.

  20. Nonsense in sour juice. You only take into account the minimization without advances in core capabilities. Intel has a processing card called Xeon Phi. It contains a lot of relatively simple processors - that's your minimization in action. Take the Quark for example. Minimal current consumption, a tiny piece of silicone and all based on the original Pentium core with improvements. This is another example of minimization. This frequency is not a function of minimization. Minimization introduces new problems that did not exist before such as leakage, transistor switching speed and much more. What's the point of getting a processor with lots of cores that (by themselves) can't do much? After all, this is not how it is utilized in the Consumer market. In the business market (servers) yes, there are uses and there are such products. This is not what frequency its graphics processor will work or will be accelerated from 800MHZ to 1.1GHZ.
  21. And I admit that Intel language is too conservative, also thanks to the lack of competition.

    ^ This ^ was my intention,
    If it sounded like I was saying hell to pigs, etc ... then it doesn't work that way today, even if I don't like it.

  22. Those who need net processing power (musicians, virtualization, etc.) have nothing to look for in Intel desktop processors, because their improvement for years has been minimal.
    Yes, you can take the 6-8 versions of I7 cores on the 2011 Socket, but these are already rising like the price of a server with more cores.

    Xvertigo, for such people, it is best to buy Xeon V3 or V2, even in dual processor configuration. They are sold cheaply as the 2 hand on EBAY and are a great value and far superior to I7 solutions.

  23. V2, V3 cost a fortune compared to the 5960X board costs more, memory costs much more (ecc) and cannot be rushed. 5960X can easily be swift to 4 Giga (with me on 4.7) and performance is significant. V2 and multiple-core v3 processors work at a much lower frequency.
    
    
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Xeon-E5-2695-v3-ES-LGA2011-3-14C-Compatible-with-X99-i7-5820K-5930K-5960X-/331609120407?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d35719e97
    Although ES version which is 100mhz less than standard version, but 600 $ for fucking 14 cores. And ECC Hand 2 memory in EBAY is really no more expensive than regular memory. All this is because the 2 hand market for server equipment is almost non-existent, and the drop in price is significantly higher in these components than in desktop components.
  24. url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-XEON-E5-2696v3-E5-2699v3-SR1XK-18-CORE-x-2-3GHz-3-6GHz-Turbo-/221830040602?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a619cc1a&autorefresh=true[/url]
    Better price can be obtained in bids.
    Obviously not in everything. So in the first post I gave examples to users as it will help them such as musicians and of course virtualization.

    By the way, a pair of production processors, (not ES) with 36 total cores and 72 capillaries at 2.3 frequency and 3.6 turbo at 2100 $

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/INTEL-XEON-E5-2696v3-E5-2699v3-SR1XK-18-CORE-x-2-3GHz-3-6GHz-Turbo-/221830040602?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item33a619cc1a&autorefresh=true
    Better price can be obtained in bids.
  25. If Intel had bothered to move in the direction of the many cores the developers would have gone in that direction as well.

  26. The scientific market has been exploiting cores for years (and are intended for a series of processors for servers)
    In the home market there is really no multi-core utilization (gaming, movies, offices) here Intel has been ahead of the market for years (multi-core exists more than PD and the market has not narrowed the gap yet)

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