We went out to test the performance of the new processors of AMD XT Series - Is it a year after the arrival of the modelsZen attitude 2 The original we get here a noticeable addition without a change in technology?
Today launches AMD Officially a new-old series of Processors Desktops in the figure RYZEN 3000 XT. These are processors that are a slight improvement in working frequency compared to those launched exactly one year ago, on that fateful day of the seventh of July 2019.
Even before we get into the intricacies of things, one can understand that the previous sentence more or less sums up this critique, and the state of the desktop processor market in which we are today. Today we mark a year since the launch of the X86 world's most significant processor generation in the last two decades, a generation AMD RYZEN 3000.
These are desktop processors consisting of 12- and 7-nanometer silicones, which come in a configuration of between 2 cores and 16 cores, a large selection that definitely managed to change the surface of the desktop processors in a one-way course with theRYZEN 9 3950X.
For anyone who lives under the rock, or just missed the world events of the X86 processors in recent years - after years of development and effort, decided AMD That it is back to compete with the giant Intel in the world of processors in 2016 with the launch of a brand new resident, and introduced for the first time Processors Have fairly high overall processing capabilities at affordable prices.
After launching the Ryzen 2018 series in 2000, it was clear thatAMD Does not intend to give up on this war, and it only continues to increase its pace of progress with processors that have become a real threat to many market shares in them Intel Controlled exclusively.
The launch of Ryzen 3000 processors based on a 7-nanometer manufacturing process marks a new kind of turnaround in the battle history between the two when it comes to net performance and electrical efficiency and not just performance for price. On the eight-core Intel Core i9 9900K processor AMD With a 9-core Ryzen 3900 12X processor, and just to make sure it stays dominant launched AMD Also a 16-core processor down the road when it does not give up the working frequencies of these cores.
Ryzen 3000 processors' sales figures speak for themselves since July of last year, with many computer stores getting used to the reality in which AMD Breaking through the niche of "understanders only" to which they were accustomed. Processors AMD Many find their way to users outside the realm of understanding, and to the general public in a variety of different processing configurations. This, while the business and organizational world is still considering its moves with them Processors New.
Thanks to maintaining the same chassis throughout all the various Ryzen processors, the motherboard economy around the processors has also become healthy, which is considered a challenge in other launches of AMD In history. The combination of chipsets and different price levels for processors AMD Became rich and inviting.
Many who had doubts about processor capabilities AMD By July of 2019, they realized that this is a serious business, that the comeback is real, and that the market is thirsty for this product that is making waves at all price levels and at all the professional levels of PCs. It's not that the performance is such that people did not know in the world of computing, then Intel still provided a level Performence Good at least also thanks to its extreme bracket, simply that the prices are significantly accessible and the advanced manufacturing process has resulted in significantly good electrical efficiency in many market segments.
On June 16 this year she announced AMD Because it plans to refresh existing processors and launch new processors with familiar names to the market. This is the first step of its kind AMD With processors RYZEN, Since until now we were used to seeing significant changes every year. The last time we saw a frequency refresh for an existing processor not long after its launch was with the FX 9000 generation of the previous decade.
This behavior is one that many have criticized Intel On it, like the one it made in the transition between Core i7 6700K and Core i7 7700K - these are two Processors Launched one year apart with a difference Performence Quite small in the form of a slight increase in working frequency mainly. This is when the launch price remains similar and even slightly higher in practice.
Now, it looks like-AMD There are many reasons to make such a similar move. For the first time - Ryzen 3000 processors are still being sold en masse and there does not seem to be a slowdown in this regard. In addition, it is important to remember that due to the plague, developments and launches of products have been postponed and slowed down, so this type of launch gives little air to work on. Development Of the following products.
As of today, three processors are available for purchase AMD New-old. XT's XT models AMD Symbolizes a slight increase in operating frequency, especially in the single-core segment, rather than the operating frequency at which the processor is located when all the cores are in exertion. Here is a complete table of current prices and technical details thanks to processors RYZEN 3000 Zen2 based for AM4 chassis:
It is known that processors AMD Become quite seriously cheap after a period they are in the market, something that does not usually happen with processors Intel. Today, a year after the launch of the first processors in the series RYZEN 3000, the old processors become very lucrative.
Once she decided AMD Launching the XT processors at high official prices compared to those of the existing processors and without a significant improvement in the data, a red light came on. Please note - Ryzen 7 3700X and Ryzen 7 3800XT siliconically are the exact same processor, with the difference between them being a higher working frequency. Of course it can be done The fast For the 3700X processors to fill the gaps or at least most of them. The difference in price? $ 275 versus $ 400 (!) At the moment.
God-RYZEN 5 3600XT is a processor that focuses mainly on gaming, an area where a core configuration of 6 physical and 12 logical is still very strong, and above it does not yield significant improvements in the vast majority of games. This processor is priced at $ 250, only about $ 25 below the price of theRYZEN 7 3700X with 8 cores and 16 capillaries. This price also makes us scratch our heads a bit, especially considering thatRYZEN The standard and fast-paced 5 3600 can be yours for only $ 175, leaving the rest of the amount to invest in quality refrigeration.
Among the new XT processors, the Ryzen 5 3600XT is the only processor still left with cooling in the package. The Ryzen 9 3900XT and Ryzen 7 3800XT come without heat sinks, which further reduces their value. The reason according to AMD Is that users anyway are going to use advanced coolers for these processors among other things also to perform The fast, And that the market of theRYZEN 5 3600XT still contains users who choose to use the default cooling.
This led me to the question - "If you already have refrigeration in the premium version of an intermediate market processor, why not use refrigeration AMD The most advanced, the Wraith Prism? ". Such a thing could have added value to the CPU, and even saved an upgrade Cooling To a wider audience of potential users. On the other hand, perhaps a slight reduction in price for leaving room for advanced cooling would also have made sense.
As mentioned, compared to the standard Ryzen 9 3900X, the XT model comes without Cooling, So there is about $ 15 less worth in the package, along with the fact that the product costs about $ 70 more. Here in Israel at the time of writing, the price difference is about NIS 380 between the models.
The difference between the standard Ryzen 5 3600X and the XT model in the price here is about 220 shekels. Such price differences alone can leave room for a particularly advanced heatsink that will allow for speed and closing gaps. This business model is very reminiscent of the existing model of Intel, Which has ceased to include refrigeration with its advanced, high-speed processors.
As we mentioned, when it comes to technical differences - they add up to the working frequency between the new XT processors and the previous X processors. The amount of cores remains the same as well זיכרון The cache and the whole production process.
The processors were tested under the default settings of the motherboards, without using the Precision Boost Overclocking feature that exists, since each motherboard will display slightly different results with Processors Different and different refrigerations.
The system is being tested with the processors launched exactly a year ago, alongside processors Intel Different from the last three series (series 10, 9 and 8). Processors We were tested in a variety of tests Performence, Some synthetic and some regular and in two resolutions - 1920 × 1080 and 2560 × 1440 with a sample video card RTX 2080. The reason for using a relatively advanced video card is to allow processors to reach as high a frame rate per second as possible without being limited by limited graphics capability. Also, the power of this video card will also reflect quite closely the advanced graphics power that we will encounter in the next generation of video cards from the various manufacturers at a lower price level.
The examination system includes:
- Gigabyte Z490 VISION G, Z390 AORUS Pro for Intel
- Asus Crosshair VIII Hero WiFi X570 for AMD
- ADATA DDR4 2X8GB 3600Mhz
- ADATA SP610 512GB + Toshiba Vertex 460 256GB SSD
- Noctua NH-D15S, NZXT X62 for 10900K
- Corsair HX 1050W
- Palit GeForce RTX 2080 GamingPro
In the game Red Dead Redemption 2, the performance between last year's processors and the XT versions is on the verge of a standard deviation, with the average in three exams being the same between theRYZEN 9 3900X and the XT still resulted in slightly higher average performance with the previous processor, simply because this difference still falls on the standard deviation. This test adopts a fairly large amount of cores in parallel, which can limit the higher frequency capability of XT processors when only a small amount of cores is in the effort.
The Overwatch game is quite sensitive to the speed of the cores, and the relatively frequent stay of the Ryzen 9 3900XT at high frequency has made it a top decile in this game, although it is important to emphasize here something that was usually emphasized in the reviews Intel Until recently - a difference Performence Tiny and imperceptible does not justify world fame. Technically, even with such an advanced video card, the difference in performance in Overwatch between the slow processor on the list and the fast one in it is not very significant, and here it is a processor that costs $ 500 compared to one that costs $ 120.
In Metro Exodus the situation is that according to the frequency improvements, so that the XT processors are placed droplet above the X processors only due to a slightly higher working frequency. The difference in performance in case of high dependence on a video card is very small. That is, as long as the processor is powerful enough in the first place. Given that we useRTX 2080, one can understand how heavy the Metro Exodus is on it.
Tomb Raider loves many processing cores alongside high working frequency. Due to this, XT processors are located slightly above their X model counterparts. In general such a game likes Processors Like thecore i5 10600K that healthily combines frequency and amount of capillaries for games. Supposedly it is a bottleneck condition, but thecore i9 10900K proves there is more Performence Reach them with higher processing power. Any processor RYZEN 3000 with 6 cores or more will deliver the goods combined with a powerful video card in this game. The performance differences between XT and X processors are quite negligible.
We dumped 3DMark as a reference for an exam Performence Synthetic that we know users sometimes run. For some reason the graphics results of the new processors are a bit low, but a close update may fix that. The performance results of the processors themselves are a very small improvement over XT over X. We are aware that updates may be BIOS Will soon come to deal with quirks of this kind.
In the Cinebench R20 rendering test based on the Cinema 4D engine, there is a slight improvement in the multi-core rendering capability of the new processors compared to last year's X processors. This is thanks to the addition of about 100 Mhz in the working frequency in this mode. In a state of exertion Core The individual difference is larger, mainly due to an increase of about 200 Mhz on average in the same Core Individual compared to the X model.
Another CPU power test is Blender rendering time. In this test we measured the amount of time in seconds it takes processors to finish rendering a static scene. No change was detected, even of one second between 3900XT and 3900X, so any financial difference between them would be unnecessary for this purpose. Between 3600XT and 3600X there is a fairly minor difference of 13 seconds during rendering, which are a little over one percent.
Handbrake software is a fantastic and free conversion tool Video Build different formats and qualities. Using this software, we examined the processing power of the various processors. The fastest are theRYZEN 9 3900XT followed by the X. The modelRYZEN 5 3600XT fast by a single percentage of the X model in this test.
Summary - The move will probably not please many users
Today marks a year for one of the most interesting moves of the entire X86 processor world, both in stationary and mobile. On July 2th a year ago ZenXNUMX's architecture AMD Launched along with processors RYZEN 3000. These processors have taken everything that was good in previous processors, improved, and added 12- and 16-core versions for a pretty serious control at the top of the desktop market processors.
Then of course we saw AMD take all the potential that architecture has and demonstrate relentless capability With Threadripper 3000 processors For the same architecture available up to 64 cores and 128 capillaries, Processors Who redefined what true extremes are and brought the power of luxury servers and workstations to the desktop.
One year ahead since the launch of Zen2, andAMD Definitely downshifts the way it approaches the speed of its processor launches. Today symbolizes a date on which AMD Launches Processors Whose viability is more questionable, if to be subtle.
The new Ryzen XT processors are a move whose main purpose is to empower the brand, and probably mainly to give bragging rights to many users over those with Processors Older. In practice, what happens is that three were born today Processors (And we can safely say this even without 3800XT in tests) Relatively expensive compared to others, and have a minor improvement and not noticeable at all in the vast majority of cases.
Even without the new XT processors, many users have a hard time finding a reason to go for more advanced models with the same amount of cores as the 3600X vs. the standard 3600, or the 3800X vs. 3700X. If there was a slower 3900X processor, probably a lot of potential users who chose the 3900X would hardly take the same version slower.
The price differences between base processors and XT processors today are huge, and at best just "big". You can put it in Cooling Advanced processor along with additional components and get to the point Performence Very close. If a slight improvement of operating frequency for individual cores in an effort when not calculating manually conversion is a bit of a hard excuse to sell when the price is not cheap at all.
It's not that these processors are slow at all. It's still the agile Zen2 architecture of AMD, And today the motherboard platform and operating systems are significantly more mature than they were then. Processor performance is very fair.
It is very possible that this launch will bring a legitimate wave of claims in the right direction AMD. One can also look at the launch from the point of view of consumer profit with existing products. More products of the same type seem to have created internal competition between products AMD That will allow existing ones to stay cheaper and not cost more.
Also, it is important to remember that by the end of the current year we are going to get news regarding my processors RYZEN Next in line, and possibly even the launch of products. In this case, the "rejection that was not" is less than half a year to the next generation products.
Therefore, it is very worthwhile to treat the launch of Ryzen 3000 XT processors mainly as a one-year celebration of products that have changed the world of processors quite seriously. A picture is worth a thousand words, and a number of pictures with tests Performence Should tell our readers well that we do not enthusiastically support the purchase of these new processors. They show slight improvements without Overclock, But come at a price that is currently difficult to get compared to the price of year-round products.
In the "Tachlesi" Israeli landscape, we have a bit of a hard time finding a comfortable place for the Ryzen 5 3600XT at a price close to that of the Ryzen 7 3700X, or the Ryzen 7 3800XT at a price close to that of the Ryzen 9 3900X. You can understand if there will be those who want to add to enjoy the premium feel of a product like Ryzen 9 3900XT. Where sensible thinking and balanced economic considerations are involved, users will probably prefer to add a little to get the next level of performance, or lower the price to get the same processor cheaper to leave a budget for other things like an upgraded motherboard, or Cooling More serious about the CPU.