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War Performance: Super Versus Navi

The official launch and reviews of the new AMD models allow us to get the intriguing and long-awaited performance comparison with the updated NVIDIA models - In the shadow of the unexpected price cuts

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Reviews of the Radeon RX 5700 and the Radeon RX 5700 XT are here, And to our delight, RTX 2060 Super and 2070 Super - and this is a great opportunity to make a head-to-head comparison to decide who is the most affordable mid-market model for 2019.

Super Models Of Were introduced and received reviews in early July, as improved versions of the original Turing cards, which include increasing the number of processing units, increasing working frequencies and increasing the power consumption envelope while moving to more competitive price levels. The 5700 RX models have been officially launched with independent reviews now, in a completely new production process on both 7 and nm Updated as RDNA, with availability available in various stores right now, about two weeks before competitor models.

Turing is accelerated and magnified at 12-nm Completely new at 7 nm. Who wins here?

Online reviews make it clear that AMD's last-minute decision to lower its price level for the Navi video card pair Was justified and very wise, allowing her to effectively capture the kingdom of performance - with the slight advantage of the RX 5700 on the standard GeForce RTX 2060 at the same price level and easy advantage of the X- RX 5700 XT vs. 2060 Super that also compete directly.

AMD's new cards eliminate the relevance of the various Vega cards - and successfully challenge In the field between 300 and 400
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The GeForce RTX 2070 Super model is able to bypass all competitors in this new comparison, at a rate of slightly more than 10 percent on average compared with RX 5700 XT - but does so with a price of 500 dollars instead of 400 dollars, which is a jump of 25 percent in price, allowing to continue to show the RX 5700 XT as the most lucrative in the category.

Still easily controls the top performance market, but at prices that do not necessarily pay the masses
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If you start looking at the wide picture, beyond the direct performance of the various reference models (which are the only ones available on reviews across the network now), get a slightly different snapshot - the high heat developed by Navi cards based on AMD's default cooling greatly limits the potential The rush of the Radeon cards, while the GeForce RTX Super models show greater potential for that. Add to that the lower power consumption of the products , Cooler temperatures and, above all, more reasonable levels of noise under load and a situation in which the consumer's choice may vary from the Red Camp to the Green Camp depending on other factors that are not the pure gaming capabilities of the product.

The better homing potential is currently in the hands of - but we will get the full answers with the launch of the various custom models over the next few months
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To a certain extent, it can be argued that there is a tie between AMD's products and its products - and the equality voucher may come in the form of custom models of the partner manufacturers that will be more agile and more lucrative than the source on which they are based and become larger than their total parts. In any case, one can rejoice that the return on price in the graphics market is on the rise. Who is the leader and winner from your perspective? Welcome to share with everyone in the comments.


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  1. I don't know what about you…. But 225W vs. 170W?
    It's clear to me what's more lucrative.

  2. Currently, the clear lead is NV's releasing third-party companies already producing their own advanced cooling versions.

    2060S compares performance with 5700XT before doing OC and after having 5-10% transport to NV.
    It is also much cooler and requires less electricity. Same as memory, similar price. Manufactured on 12 NV versus AMD's 7NM.

    An ideal comparison will only be possible for another month plus after these companies release advanced cooling versions for AMD's newcomers.
    At the moment, the bellows bellows are a card that is not relevant to the purchase (except for those who put a water block straight on it or have to push air out of the box at all costs and only AMD).

    In practice, only NV cards can be recommended at this time. For AMD you have to wait, hope and see what comes out.
    On the face of it, there seems to be a very good potential for a close struggle that will help us buy more cheaply. Just wait a little longer.

  3. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-radeon-5700-xt-overclocked,39916.html


    (…) You might think the 5700 XT is under liquid cooling because it has to be, or it would thermal throttle, but this overclock didn't really push the 5700 XT very hard. This ~ 10% overclock only required ~ 15% more power, which is a far cry from the massive power draw required to push previous Vega-based GPUs (even including the Radeon VII that's based on the same 7nm process). For an overclock of this caliber, you hardly need a liquid cooler, just a decent aftermarket air cooler. (…) "

    very interesting. This means since there is a great potential for overclocking here that will manifest itself with higher-level refrigeration (such as those that will be released over the next few months). I wouldn't eulogize those cards yet.

  4. https://www.computerbase.de/2019-07/radeon-rx-5700-xt-test/4/

    They compared NAVI to other architectures, with the special point being that they tried to go as far as possible on cards with the same number of processors, the same memory bandwidth, and the same speed.


    In a cheerful line, cards with proper cooling may not arrive too soon.

    Just a note, the achievement of 2.2GHZ was achieved after modification of operating system registers by customizable software.

    Suggests not expecting that any card that comes from a recognized manufacturer will be able to achieve it, perhaps end models that have specifically opened the power envelope.
    It is currently a "theoretical" supreme value because most people who buy the product will not be able to do such actions by obtaining OC.

  5. The point is of course OC capabilities that do not rip the chip completely with the smallest speed.

    I imagine that cached cards will receive a 10-12 boost in performance, which will bring them closer to the writer series.

  6. Wonder what actual performance the next NV cards will have in line. Not the current versions, switching to 7NM. Can't see how I stayed at 1080P

    It happens. I have to renew my work room a bit and screen 27 \ 1440P this is the next thing, fitting the proper GPU. Even if it will happen another two years

    It's okay, but it seems to me the next change is required .. I'm playing on 1080P already seem to me over a decade.

  7. 27 / 1440p It's a bit small to me. Depends of course what you have today.

    I'm on 42 / 2060p and I'm thinking of going down to some ultra wide screen with a high refresh rate and see how it works.

  8. Ultra Wade is great. I've been playing for a few years on such a screen, aiming to upgrade to a newer one along with my next purchase at the end of the year.

  9. Quote of the captaincaveman

    27 / 1440p It's a bit small to me. Depends of course what you have today.

    I'm on 42 / 2060p and I'm thinking of going down to some ultra wide screen with a high refresh rate and see how it works.

    Far from being small to me. I've been on 1080P since coming out of the U2414H model. Before that I was at all on the legendary 2209WA.

    So switching to 27 \ 1440P is for me an upgrade. I have no interest in getting too far away from the screen in terms of viewing distance, such large screens

    This is no longer for me.

  10. Quote of coch

    I wonder what Performence In practice, the following NV cards will be in line. Not the current versions, the transition to 7NM. Do not see how I stay at 1080P

    It happens. I have to renew my work room a bit and screen 27 \ 1440P this is the next thing, fitting the proper GPU. Even if it will happen another two years

    It's okay, but it seems to me the next change is required .. I'm playing on 1080P already seem to me over a decade.

    You can expect a jump from 9 to 10 or something close to it.
    Where there was a reduction in the 22 production process to 14 NM, as well as an improvement in the architecture that resulted in another effort.
    It is no coincidence that 1080TI is considered to be very rewarding and very powerful.

    The question of whether NV will only reduce process and increase frequencies or further erode the architecture.

    In recent years, they have not performed a simple "Riprush" (unlike AMD) and do not believe they will do so in the move to 7NM.
    But everything is possible and depends on the state of the market (ie AMD). If the reds are to be issued cards worthy of the higher segment to NV will have an incentive to release the ampere on 7NM.
    If NAVI stops where it is quite possible we will see a "Super Duper" series based on Turing.

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