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The big comeback: Radeon RX 5700 XT and Radeon RX 5700

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We took our new weapons In its battle for the gamer's heart with a new architecture, an improved price tag and performance that will also make major vendors raise an eyebrow - know the RX 5700

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Today is a special day for the hardware manufacturer . Today is the day when it is trying to recapture the desktop userele with its new products, including a product that many have been waiting for to change the view of video cards for gaming and productivity.

Announcing the graphics cards RX 5700 may not come as a surprise for many after years of leaks and trailers for a new graphics architecture, but now they are finally here. The Navi architecture on which these graphics cards are based is the first to come in a completely different design since the Polaris architecture came into the market with RX 480 exactly three years ago.

RX 5700 XT

AMD's system for video card launches is the development of a primary architecture, followed by refresher and launch of new products in the years that follow. For example, CGN or Graphics Core Next Launched at the end of 2011 To the applause on which he was based Launched even in 2015. After several changes and improvements in this architecture, we saw Polaris as its basis Graphical graphics cards from RX 480 and RX 580 models and their derivatives.

Now, the Torah of Completely new to grasp the foreground, with some improvements absolutely required.

The Navi architecture came to restore the crown to the Using some important key features, the most important of which is the processor to create a nanometer 7 process in the TSMC Taiwanese plant. In addition, fast GDDR6 memory chips are used. At the chip level, the PCI-Express 4.0 standard has also been added, and this is mainly believed to promote the X570 platform and its new processors . Already at this stage of the audit, I will emphasize - a good and nice device that exists, but is not expected to affect platform users at all 3.0 standard. The need for information traffic is simply not there with these graphics cores, so far.

The architecture, as stated, is new in its design. It is clear to me that there is no invention of components or special development of a working method, but sometimes a silicon engineer can perform operations such as increasing cache, acceleration of traffic pipes and faster connection to the PCI-Express interface, Done with Navi. Quantity The first level cache was raised, access times were shortened, and frequencies increased.

The new knights of - Get to know you RX 5700

Today, we are going out to the world of video cards for which we have waited a lot. Family RX 5700 contains the core And also includes new technical data.

Big Brother, the Radeon RX 5700 XT is a video card that comes in the price tag of 399 dollars and competes directly with the GeForce GTX 2060 Super . This video card has 8GB of Type On the 256Bit width.

As shown in the XT model, the processing core contains 2,560 United.

The design you see here is the default design of And that will be available from today until the day when designs with advanced refinements will come from the manufacturers such as Asus, , , And others. when will it happen? I hope very soon. The heat envelope of this video card is set to 225W.

The back of the video card contains a full aluminum plate except for the graphics core area. This plate protects the printed board and improves the card aesthetically.

The card display ports have three types 1.4 and one type 2.0b. Unfortunately, there is no type-C connection that supports VirtualLink, The competitor.

The power supply requirement of the RX 5700 XT is one 8PIN and one 6PIN. Both connections must be populated for the video card operation.

Thus, RX 5700. This video card comes to us at a recommended price tag of 349 USD, just 50 under the older brother, and is similar in most technical details except the number of processors. Compared to 2,560 unified processors, the XT-free model has only 2,304 and, consequently, fewer textures. also to- RX 5700 standard Type 8GB volume.

Although the RX 5700's heat envelope is only 180W compared to its brother's 225W, the same type of 8PIN and 6PIN power connections are required.

Something in the simple design of the RX 5700 vs. Big Brother pulls me, apparently the smooth and minimalist cover is all I need.

These two graphics cards use the same fan and internal heat sink. The XT back has an additional air-in opening when the standard 5700 back is completely closed, reducing its cooling capacity, and omitting the possibility of running a number array Such close together without experiencing overheating.

Back- The 5700 RX does not contain a cover like that of the brother and the printed circuit board is exposed.

The cooling of these graphics cards is actually a copper vapor chamber with liquid in it. The same compartment is connected to aluminum fans using the fan to diffuse the heat.

This is how the power supply system looks to the graphics core and the ", Where the only difference between the two graphics cards is that the core of the XT gets 7 steps while that of the standard version in 6 steps only. There is one step to graphical memory.

These are On Semiconductor's FDMF3170 voltage stabilizers and are the most advanced intelligent power stages manufactured in the world today. They have temperature, voltage and power control at the highest levels. The maximum current that each step can provide is 70A, so there is no problem at all with the use of six or seven of these in the cards To provide power to the core, a very easy task.

Where are the third party versions of Booty makers?

At this time, there are no third-party versions of video card makers based on the Navi chip. We do not have specific information about the subject, but we very much hope that by the end of August we will be able to see the same versions that will help get the most potential out of Navi. We're talking about versions such as Ausus Gigabyte, or MSI Gaming X, for example, which often have advanced, fast shakes right from the factory. As of now, all available Radeon RX 5700 versions will be based on the default design of Which you see here.

It's time for us to take the performance tests on the next page and understand where it stands today Facing tough competition.


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  1. KSP prices seem preferable:
    2095 to 5700XT compared to about 2400 to standard RTX2070.

  2. https://www.tomshw.de/2019/07/11/ungefesselt-radeon-rx-5700-xt-auf-ueber-22-ghz-uebertaktet-break-the-limits-mit-den-neuen-softpowerplaytables-fuer-die-rx-5700-und-rx-5700-xt/2/

    Well, what do you say about that? It is still early but we are already reaching 2.2G + and what is surprising is that the increase in electricity consumption is minimal.

    So wait for the AIB versions, if that's the HEADROOM for initial silicon then the macros will probably show better results.

  3. Replacing thermal ointment and using thermal stickers on the back of the card significantly improves the thermal performance of the original 5700XT heat sink. Conclusion - Wait for tickets with higher quality third party cooling:



  4. Unlike the well-known DLSS, the new NAVI shredder gives you a better solution with an 30% improvement in FPS with no near-visible quality, or 2 FPS with a slightly softer image, so what do you think?

  5. Quote of huber

    Depends who you ask :)
    Techpowerup has a bundle of 20 games, which, according to Annie, is the most comprehensive review of titles there, so their average represents the best.
    Of course there are titles where 5700XT takes a big time but the same with 2060S in other titles.
    Once a maximal OC is executed for both 2060S, it takes a clear gap of 5-10%.

  6. Quote of TheHwGeek

    OC restrictions have been breached and now the cheapest 5700 can also pass the 2GHZ:

    https://www.3dmark.com/fs/19828878

    Great VFM !.

    What cooling improvements did this require? How much did they cost?
    Unregistered, it may be under water cooling or full air cooling replacement… and then between that and value for money the great distance…

  7. Quote of TheHwGeek

    Unlike the well-known DLSS, the new Pizzler ships Gives you a better solution with improved 30% in FPS with no visible vulnerability in quality, or 2 FPS with a slightly smoother image, so what do you think?

    It's fun to remember people who claimed that DLSS is WOW and AMD will not have an answer to a better UPSCALING solution - even though everyone knows they control consoles and that's the most useful name.

    Seems like a good solution at all, the NV group has a good reason to try to implement something similar in addition to DLSS (or instead of cards that can not do)
    Definitely gives a great image even if you lose a little "depth of field" - the whole picture both soon and far away looks the same plane that cancels the way we intended to present the picture originally.
    The picture also looks sharper from the 4K mode, maybe a little in Uber, but it's already a matter of taste.

    Overall a really good feature that can be further polished to anyone who wants to jump to 4K with very little sacrifice in details. Initial impression looks much more successful and available from DLSS :)

  8. Quote of omertgm

    What improvements Cooling It demanded? How much did they cost?
    Unregistered, it may be under Cooling Water or replacement Cooling Full air… and then between that and value for money the great distance…

    I also tried to see if it made this change with the original cooling and mourning at high rpm.

    The good news in my opinion is that the silicon itself has a respectable HEADROOM so AIB cards can be really good if you keep SRP prices and not bounce like the Asus RTX2070S priced at 600 $.

    And for RIS - but in 1: 1 can seem a bit too sharp, so the best balance is to download Scaile to 75% as they did and get an extra 30% in performance and that's already in the league of over RTX2080 !.

  9. Quote of omertgm

    What improvements Cooling It demanded? How much did they cost?
    Unregistered, it may be under Cooling Water or replacement Cooling Full air… and then between that and value for money the great distance…

    Timmy made a video about it, he got even a slightly higher result.

    He replaced the air-cooled refrigerant that was disassembled from an old card.

  10. Quote of TheHwGeek

    Interestingly when will support DX11 because it will already be painful to NV.

    Wait, is this supported only in DX12 titles?
    If so, it's less interesting. I thought that there was a game at the end that should not be supported and successful.

    If this is the case then it is quite similar to what NV does only with other titles.

    NV will invest in DLSS only in RT titles where most needs improvement in performance (this is their choice of which title to make DLSS versions, it is possible for any game even if launched before 20 year) and this promotes their agenda. These games are expected to breed.
    At the same time, DX12 crowns are expected to increase and they will automatically receive support for AMD's beautiful solution.
    In more and more cases with time, the new titles that support the buttons will be the same.

    As a footnote, anyone who plays RT in the game totally pays to run DLSS as well. The decline in quality is negligible compared to the increase in RT details and pays off for the significant increase in FPS enabled by DLSS.

  11. It was found that the 5700 card was intentionally shredded by the manufacturer to allow the launch of the Kastum models in a month,

    With more significant tone performance. Anyway broke the current AMD card and showed what it can do

    When the limitations are removed:

  12. Believes that a similar exercise can also be done with NV cards, and this will also enable previous generations of NV cards - everything is a matter of decision.
    All in all, this is a not very sophisticated refinement, quite "stupid" in fact and that is what allows him to have such broad support. A kind of post-posting effect is just as successful as it has come out so far and well done to them.

    NV "likes" to develop complex and fundamental solutions that require dedicated hardware, thus creating their own closed ecosystem and their solution is very comprehensive and with few compromises. This is their strategic decision to control the market and since they capture a very significant share of the market it is also very successful for them (meanwhile).

    It continues the same line of simple (for the better) solutions as free-sync and also what their dedicated RT solution doesn't say will need dedicated hardware. It's their strategic choice that stands against NV. Suitable for those who don't invest too heavily in complex solutions And utilizes existing universal devices, not just about reinventing the wheel, and even if there are some compromises, it pays off for the low cost of development and implementation.

  13. AMD has published the code and has already been integrated into RESHADE and everyone can try:
    Again - the interesting part in my opinion is how their UPSCALE works in combination with this exclusively on NAVI.

  • It is not clear how 100 got an extra watts in the OC when Igor found that in his 2.2GHZ ticket he needed only 35 watts more.

    A strange equation.

  • Each one works differently and this is not a standard standardized domain and everyone recycles the same experiment one by one and everyone measures standards.

    The so-called adorable domain does not go beyond.

    In any case, we learn a few things:

    A. The first is that the card is limited by memory bandwidth, which was pretty predictable given the relatively modest bandwidth of just 256 bits.

    B. Which means Ann tastes pushing the core up more, because it doesn't gain enough performance over the increase in frequency.

    third. The core with better cooling is capable of giving more work. If they were to chip in a wider memory controller, say 384 bits

    It would improve its performance - but it has a price that probably doesn't fit the category in which the product is.

    D. In conclusion - the performance chip card size is good (at the moment) relative to the competition, and when they release the larger versions

    More than his RDNA, he'll definitely be something that competes against 2080ti quietly.

    Thechas I am satisfied with the operational efficiency of the new architecture that AMD has issued, it competes without the inferiority of the competitor.

    After the release of custom versions, a quarter of stabilization and ironing will give birth to childhood illnesses, it will be a mature and interesting product in the market.

  • Quote of TheHwGeek

    It is not clear how 100 got an extra watts in the OC when Igor found that in his 2.2GHZ ticket he needed only 35 watts more.

    A strange equation.

    Not to build on a single and extreme event like 2.2GHZ on air as something representative, I've already noted it. How many more have achieved such a stable frequency?

    5700XT comes out of the box with quite a bit of extra voltage to achieve a high and stable frequency. This is clearly seen in the performance / power graph relative to the normal 5700 that will benefit from 16%.
    So 5700XT is much closer to a point where voltage and frequency increase bring a small, ever-improving performance to a halt.
    It is much more likely that the result of that Igor is strange and non-representative.

  • It does not just seem that he has already reached the end of his silicon ability and just kept on flushing volts regardless, there is no point in such an OC.

  • Taking advantage of Steve's fresh review regarding the Super 2080 card,

    No Because of this card, he is not interested right now, but because of what Steve releases in the 11 minute: 33.

    The link I put in a direct link to the end of the sum of things. Sleep for a minute to 11: 33,

    It emits (whether accidentally or intentionally) about the arrival of RX5800 and RX5900 cards.

    It seems to me that he also received the information on the subject from his sources:

  • omertgm - this hawk is irrelevant. The 5700XT multi is between the 2070 and 2070S (and sometimes bypasses both, take a look at BF V, Metro: EXODUS and more) so it is more than a good option against the 2060S.

  • Quote of huber

    omertgm - this hawk is irrelevant. The 5700XT multi is between the 2070 and 2070S (and sometimes bypasses both, take a look at BF V, Metro: EXODUS and more) so it is more than a good option against the 2060S, especially when it costs about 100 $ less than them.

    2060S is at the same performance level on average Titles (add 3% to 2060S Reference to get average third-party performance of 2060S), of course the specifics tend to mouth or go depending on the game.
    They also tend to pass OC better.

    In terms of the absolute price, 2060S might be a little more expensive, but it's something that can be balanced against it by as much as 20% (and comes with 2 free PCs and RTX and other vegetables). Therefore, they are a total consideration, each one is a good option and the individual case is the one that will probably determine which is better.
    There's no clear "winner" here, that's the point.

    [This Benz is very comfortable, though synthetic and less representative, because it shows 3 side cards on both sides, which is hard to find. This is usually a reference to a third party card and you need to calculate percentages from multiple sources to be accurate]

  • Although "standard deviation" but if the potential buyer has an interest in these games, it will count as a bonus and even affect the buying decision.

  • It is really interesting to read this thread (it is not clear just why you call the Custom AIB cards…).

    As a NV fanboy I have to say that 5700XT and especially the recently released Kastum cards are undermining my fanboism. If indeed the 5800XT competes with the 2080Ti for a better 20% price, as 5700XT does for RTX2070S, there is a situation that I will switch to for the first time in years.

    But in my opinion NV won't let that happen, they will lower prices to bring relevance back to their tickets. And anyway, I'm glad to see how competition in this market is finally emerging.

  • I returned yesterday morning from the US, visiting a couple of close friends in Seattle and didn't jump into Amazon stores there.

    Computer among other things because I hiked a bit etc.

    The truth about it might have been bringing an AIB model of the 5700XT .. a piece I forgot.

  • You didn't miss anything,

    There are no such shortcomings for overseas orders such as Amazon.

    Do not worry about your heart.

  • Quote of TheHwGeek

    5700XT in AIB versions will indeed compete with RTX2070SUPER mainly because of the maximum frequency they can reach. It should be remembered that NV's cards already automatically close 2GHZ depending on the game and temperature, they do not have much space for the OC, and the NAVI looks fun will pass the 2.2GHZ.

    They seem to be Competing in 2060S successfully (Mostly dependent on specific game) and average on average about 5 percent, although in OC they are not really successful.
    A number of third-party models that have already emerged indicate that 5700XT in the reference version has already undergone maximum tension and almost nothing remains to squeeze. Even when the card goes through OC it doesn't translate really well to extra performance at Thessalon. Between 1% and 5% of what I saw on the various sites. On the other hand, those in NV don't have too much room, but they still do better in this segment (which narrows the gap to 2-3% after OC).
    The addition of cooling lowers the temp and noise significantly (welcome and very important) but that adds up.

    Align a successful line against 2060S or 2070S if you are mainly interested in BFV (in fact this game is also very upright against 2080S).

  • In the meantime, my least summary of all the reviews I've seen (Sapphire's tickets are still on their way), is that the PULSE, meanwhile, is a safe bet on low-quality quality. This should be a safe choice for all users who get stuck on which model to take.

  • Sapphire's card did look pretty solid. Although lately, Amazon is showing me all kinds of deals and the Gigabyte card has shown a $ 420 price, I even came to a pre-purchase page to verify it, and it was available to order.

    Currently the page shows Currently unavailable.

  • The product, as far as I understand, was sold not badly from the moment they started selling Custom versions. There are difficulties.

  • Quote of ch33

    If you got the card, can share your experiences from the drivers? Having problems if any?

    I am building a computer for my little brother and it is pretty much locked on the 5700XT (model Red PowerColor's DEVIL) that wants to squeeze every frame from your computer even though it's only on 1080p. There are many horror stories on the Internet about BSODs and black screens, screen jerks, blasts on 1080P… Any personal experiences?

    I purchased the Gigabyte Radeon Rx 5700 Xt Gaming OC 8G card. Pretty easy card considering its size. I got 1815 ₪ from Amazon, a Visa Visa card so a discounted conversion. The card consumes the least electricity compared to other cards probably thanks to a more economical electrical system.

    Indeed it wasn't plug & play, I had blasts at first but in my opinion it pays off, Input Lag is lower on the same FPS compared to NVIDIA cards.

    I'm also on 1080P and don't reach 100% use on Reisen 2600X, an easy overclock for 4.1GHZ.

    Display Driver Uninstaller software must be used to delete previous driver residues, preferably before installation.

    Drivers - Be careful what you do.

    Radeon Settings Advisor will offer you some things to do.

    Things that cause jamming and don't trigger:

    Radeon Anti-Lag

    Enhanced Sync

    VSR

    Things you can do:

    FreeSync

    Resolution & Refresh Rate - Native - to set the refresh rate on the default screen on 60HZ.

    Games run very smoothly. The only bug I encountered and still couldn't find a solution is that sometimes immediately after returning from the screen, there may be a black screen for 2 / 3 seconds probably because drivers are reminded that FreeSync needs to be enabled on screen.

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