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Equal but different: Radeon Fury X musk and gets positive reviews

AMD's new flagship card is finally here, and although it can not beat the competition from home , It seems to be a good alternative, cool and quiet for high resolutions

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After almost a year and a half of waiting, accompanied by various rumors - a video card A new leader From AMD Finally Landing in stores, and despite all the fears and gloomy assessments manages to provide proper competition The Maxwell 2.0 cards IPhone - - iphone mobile phone .

Although there is talk on the net that 4GB graphics memory, however fast, will fail to deliver the goods at high resolutions, The Fury X Manages to deliver similar performance until completely identical to those of The GeForce GTX 980 Ti וThe GeForce Titan X It is actually gaming in 2,160 × 3,860 pixel settings, and actually proves that The innovative HBM is indeed ripe In order to boost commercial products to one level above the existing technologies in the field.

Fiji, that's how it looks from the inside
Fiji, that's how it looks from the inside

Surprisingly, at resolutions lower than 4K we saw the video cards of the Opening a gap of between 10 and 20 percent on average, probably because of the lower relevance of memory bandwidth in these situations.

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Even after offsetting titles in which the Fury X is having trouble working at best, the card Can not rise above the Ti - not in performance itself, neither in efficiency nor in performance stability

Source: techreport.com; techpowerup.com

The Fury X Was very surprising in the cooling sector, where the default water system showed very impressive data with temperatures ranging only around 60 degrees in full effort, alongside a fan that operates at roughly the same noise level (about 32 decibel), both at rest and at hard work.

Water cooling as standard is revealed as a very effective choice and strategy
Water as a standard is revealed as a very effective choice and strategy

Both of these data are great for a card that displays an average power consumption of 280 watts in effort (about 40 watts more From the direct competitorGeForce GTX 980 Ti), but it should be noted that the noise level of the 32 decibel at rest is relatively high, and most visitors also reported a weak but persistent and very annoying wail produced by the Fury X in its operation. B- We've already had a formal response to this, ensuring that the final models that reach the same annoying voice won't exist - but we'd recommend waiting for actual initial consumer responses in order to avoid any potential malfunction that would make anyone forget about the low noise of the card fan in the effort.

Critics have noticed a significant lack of uniformity regarding the noise power of the Fury X - with the major differences likely due to the ability of the various measuring devices to absorb the same malfunctioning howl of the card

The coolness of the Fury X is great (the temperature is about 25 lower than the GeForce GTX 980 Ti andThe GeForce Titan X), But unfortunately it seems that it can't really be translated into particularly high-quality rushes - the Locked to a maximum speed of about 100MHz only for the core, and does not allow for any overall hbm memory. It may be that in the future we will see solutions and detours that will enable the card to be pushed to its true end, but at present it seems to be advantageous The water will remain fairly limited.

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There is room for extra performance based on Mantle and - but it is quite minor

Source: semiaccurate.com

At the end of the day, the Fury X made a great comeback for And gets very close to the GTX 980 Ti and the Titan X, but can not beat them. It is very important for them to walk on the Fury X to high-resolution systems without regrets, but everyone else will probably prefer the GTX 980 Ti, which offers a versatile, versatile package And eventually with Are better in most cases, even if the difference is one or two percent.

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Source: hardwarecanucks.com

Although there is no victory here, The Radeon Fury X Is an extremely important product in the graphics processing market. It is not only a significant competition we have missed in the high performance market in the last year, but also offers a number of innovative standards that will undoubtedly be widely adopted soon, thanks to this opening.

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In the not too distant future, when tickets are high Will be offered with water coolers and memories in unusually large bandwidth as a routine thing - you'll know who to thank for that

The leading card of It will be offered at a base price of 650 dollars (in Israel it has already started to appear in several stores, at a massive starting price of almost NIS 4,000), the same as the recommended retail price. Ti, where the particularly tight competition between the two models suggests a price war is possible, while in general it seems that any price cuts from either side can tip the balance in cost / benefit ratios.

GeForce GTX 980 Ti Or Radeon Fury X? Core Maxwell 2.0 Or core Fiji? This is your time to decide.

One further drawback of the Fury X is AMD's approach, which has decided to ban its partners from making material changes to the card (at least for now), similar to the NVIDIA system within its Titan family. This means that unlike the situation in the GTX 980 Ti, extra performance thanks to certain upgraded and upgraded models will probably not be here - nor will there be a technology that stops fan rotation at rest and helps avoid the considerable noise of the Fury X when it is not loaded
One other drawback of the Fury X is AMD's approach, which has decided to forbid its partners from making material changes to the card (at least for now) As part of its Titan family.
This means that unlike the situation in the GTX 980 Ti, an addition Thanks to specific rushed and upgraded models, you probably won't be here - and neither will you Which stops fan rotation at rest and helps to avoid the considerable noise of the Fury X when it is not loaded


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  1. url] http://plonter.com/detail.tmpl?sku=R9FURYX-4G [/ url]
    Already got to Plonter

    http://plonter.co.il/detail.tmpl?sku=R9FURYX-4G
    
    				
  2. In short there is no alternative to 980Ti, I see no reason in the world to buy this card.

    Not at least that price.

  3. At one of the sites, the visitor noted that the pump makes annoying noise at high frequency and also has "coil noises" (which is buzzing as it seems) in the effort, making the impression that it is not in a single unit. Anyone who feels these things can freak out.

  4. The comparison of the reference is important for the uniformity of results over time and for maintaining "laboratory conditions".
    In Thessaly, the vast majority, if not the absolute majority of purchasers (especially in this segment) buy third-party versions and the situation is completely unequivocal.
    The performance difference cannot be bridged, the working temp compares while the increment is marginally priced.

  5. A. Manual OC is relevant to the vast majority of people who buy a ticket at $ 500 or higher and these cost a lot more.
    B. Also 25% OC-out-of-the-box on most models makes it irreversible
    third. 50 $ Out of 650 this is 7.5%, the performance improvement is greater than 7.5% so it is marginal and even makes sense to pay the extra.
    It's the high-end and in this segment a small addition (which is not the case) justifies an extra cost.

  6. url] http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84170-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-4gb/?page=8 [/ url]
    Incidentally, there are reviews of other games on the network such as DL, GRID… and the name FURY X is even weaker.

    http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/84170-amd-radeon-r9-fury-x-4gb/?page=8
    
    				
  7. The relative benefit of AMD is currently reduced to FreeSync only.
    These are $ 100 over the Gsync screens that AMD's marketing department (phenomenal in capabilities) needs to market to help with something.
    Make an instant partnership with screen makers, who have recently released a variety of supporting models (including Samsung and the Understander)
    They will indulge in a "package I compromise ______" and regain such a market share that they lack (and deserve).

  8. Now it has been fully tested, only NVIDIA.
    There is no reason to buy any AMD product at 2015.

  9. And I thought to Tommy that the price of 980TI went down ... AMD you fucked everyone with the HYPE.

  10. The fastest cure, and it is only for those who know how, it is OC software that allows at least Vcore.
    I'm pessimistic about lowering a fast price or upgrading a fast driver.

  11. Don't worry all the AMD fanboys will buy this junk and see them in the forum complaining about black screens, burners, chassis heat, blue screens in addition to blacks' game drivers issues, pop-up textures and more and more

    GO AMD!

  12. And I was hoping the F word wouldn't reach a forum like this ... needless to say, you slowly.

    The most feasible I see for them is to expedite the "fury MAXX" at a market-breaking price like they did with 295X2.
    To compete with less than 1K and everyone will be satisfied.
    They remain in the hope that, as in the announcement, he will steal the show. This is the most profitable segment. They can't give it up now.
    This will give up the entire 300 series but they don't have much choice in my opinion.

  13. For AMD to be relevant the Fury in air cooled needs to achieve the same performance at a maximum of 580 dollars. Anyone see EVGA and Gigabyte making this a reality?

  14. In principle this is what normal FURY should be, minus some processing units.
    So I see no problem in getting rid of the water cooler (which is not proven) and throwing WF3 over there with 600W cooling power.

  15. Don't worry, all AMD fanboys will buy this junk and see them in the forum complaining about black screens, burners, chassis heat, blue screens in addition to blacks' gaming problems, pop-up textures and more and more GO AMD!

    what is going on with you?

    Did you realize that you hate AMD, you have to continue this childish line in any thread that talks about AMD?

  16. what is going on with you? Did you realize that you hate AMD, you have to continue this childish line in any thread that talks about AMD? I am as disappointed with AMD as anyone else here, but all the phenomena you described did not happen to me in 5 years of using different AMD cards.

    right
    People, drifting on AMD drivers, drifting on blue screens, there's a anti-AMD legitimization campaign here
    Nothing happened to me for many years with Gigabyte or Asus

  17. I am more interested to know how it will work with Windows 10, and DirectX 12, will it show more performance? , Will its potential develop? And how will it be in front of the GTX 980 Ti in 10 windows? , Of course at QHD and UHD resolutions.
    I would like to know that because I am already hot to buy a new video card and I do not know which is better and which one to choose ..., I have no preference for who to turn, green or red, over the years I have had cards from both divisions, so what is important to me is maximum performance, Quality and reliability (which will work for at least 3 years without problems), and the price here is nothing to add too much because I see that in the meantime they go more or less head on both, about the same price.

  18. My hypothesis - tickets from both camps will see a similar improvement. Maybe a few percent in favor of one side.
    Not something that will turn tables at least until there are games built with the thought of implementing DX12 capabilities. There may already be ones that after patch will show a nice improvement as with mantle. It may not take a year + until its proper exploitation.

    And question - Anyone have long experience with closed (pre-prepared) water systems with CPU or GPU? How do they behave over time? In dust-cooled air, dust accumulates and fans are noisy and stop working, how about water?

  19. You start to get that there is, there just isn't… a single GPU card for gaming on 4K not green, nor red.
    The fight is this year on 1440P, and here AMD lost!
    In fact on NV they would not launch 980TI they might have had a better chance.

  20. Absolutely they lost, but in terms of price performance they have another chance to improve with 2 FURY air versions.
    Their aggressive pricing as AMD knows (and recently NV has proven they know) will also drop 980 / 970 / 390X / 390 prices and everything is open.

  21. Keep in mind that the 980TI was a (successful) attempt by NVIDIA to block this card, eventually NVIDIA "killed" the TITAN X much earlier than they wanted.
    Relative to an innovative product this card doesn't work too bad ... The driver looks pretty shit, we'll see how long it will take until they fix it. I wonder how much magic they had to do for the games to partially exploit the benefits of HBM (and according to the performance at 4K you can see that AMD really did something).

  22. They did not kill the Titan, the Titan is a compromise card for professional work games on 3D.
    If it had been sold during the time I purchased the professional quadruple, I would have opted for the Titan instead of holding a Gamingig card and also a Q card.

  23. Drivers are a patch to a problem that seems more substantial.
    Something unbalanced on this card. It is with the same performance in 4K and as the resolution decreases the gap increases to 20% ~ difference in favor of 980ti.
    As if something limits it when FPS is high = low resolution. It's not just the driver otherwise the difference between him and 980ti was similar across all resolutions.
    This is not a problem of volume or memory width that is safe.
    There is talk of too low ROPs. I don't get it.

  24. ^^^
    Just because of what you wrote I think the problem is the driver and the fact that the card is relatively different from the other products on the market. ROPs may also add to the problem, but we are likely to see improvement in the coming months.

    The TITAN X is not a compromise, it is a net gaming card (unlike the first TITAN), it has no advantage to professional work over the GTX 980TI which is based on the same core only with less memory (or the regular 980 for that matter).

  25. The Titan in the market is older than the 980TI card, its memory allowance to work on polygon-intensive projects in Max CAD.
    There is even a user base in the field already working with the Titan.

  26. About HBM: The investment in it seems to have justified itself, otherwise AMD would not have even come close to equalizing performance (at high resolutions ..)
    On the other hand, somewhat paradoxically, NV's decision to stay with DDR5 also justified itself.
    This indicates that the technology is not sufficiently mature, something that AMD is harmed by is mainly economically-innovative product is expensive but NV forces them to sell it at a low price, perhaps too low and not economical.
    I expect AMD will direct FX to match TX, attach a lower price tag to $ 100ti, and air versions will handle 980ti and below (don't accept that they wouldn't be surprised by the 980ti launch near TX).

    The low OC capabilities that FX displays suggest a drastic "damage control" to performance - it seems to have been pushed to the edge in the reference model already and no juice is left to squeeze from this lemon. This is a recurring trend in AMD products recently.
    Quickly HBM work (unlike DDR5) is impossible to touch - it is completely locked.

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    By the way, it is not significantly different from other AMD cards. There is no new architecture here.
    It is based on GCN1.2 similar to the 380 / 285 model. If I'm not mistaken Fiji it is also the full extended chip based on tonga
    The drivers for GCN1.2 have been around for a year.
    If there is room to improve them - I have no doubt.
    Will the potential be realized and if so will there be a significant - less optimistic change.
    About HBM: The investment in it seems to have justified itself, otherwise AMD would not have even come close to equalizing performance (at high resolutions ..)
    On the other hand, somewhat paradoxically, NV's decision to stay with DDR5 also justified itself.
    This indicates that the technology is not sufficiently mature, something that AMD is harmed by is mainly economically-innovative product is expensive but NV forces them to sell it at a low price, perhaps too low and not economical.
    I expect AMD will direct FX to match TX, attach a lower price tag to $ 100ti, and air versions will handle 980ti and below (don't accept that they wouldn't be surprised by the 980ti launch near TX).

    The low OC capabilities that FX displays suggest a drastic "damage control" to performance - it seems to have been pushed to the edge in the reference model already and no juice is left to squeeze from this lemon. This is a recurring trend in AMD products recently.
    Quickly HBM work (unlike DDR5) is impossible to touch - it is completely locked.

    - - - Unified response: - - -

    By the way, it is not significantly different from other AMD cards. There is no new architecture here.
    It is based on GCN1.2 similar to the 380 / 285 model. If I'm not mistaken Fiji it is also the full extended chip based on tonga
    The drivers for GCN1.2 have been around for a year.
    If there is room to improve them - I have no doubt.
    Will the potential be realized and if so will there be a significant - less optimistic change.

  28. The TITAN X is not a card for professional work! It is a net gaming card and it came out less than three months before the 980ti (a much smaller time difference compared to the previous generation). The only advantage of the TITAN X over other cards is the memory and there is no game to utilize this memory. Whoever buys this card for professional work has not checked beforehand what it is buying.

    I don't think AMD expected to compete in TITAN X with this card, I think they aimed for that price and performance higher than 980 and assumed NVIDIA would keep their schedule. Actually NVIDIA was quick to respond and correctly assessed what AMD was going to do.

    It seems to me that much of their problems have been caused by the new memory, the great disadvantage of jumping on new and immature technology. Considering the fact that the card itself is much simpler than previous tickets, their profit on them is pretty good and they can even lower the price a little. On the other hand, they are unlikely to pay back development costs of 7 years and their financial situation is not good, if they last another two years this product will probably help.
    In addition, if they feel more secure in HBM in the future and release a version with air cooling, they can easily lower the cost of the card (this water cooling is designed to cool 500W, very expensive cooling in terms of what they actually need).

  29. The FURY X looks well built, it is very quiet and its performance is great. If the price was right, he would surely succeed.

  30. Drivers are a patch to a problem that seems more substantial. Something unbalanced on this card. It is with the same performance in 4K and as the resolution decreases the gap increases up to 20% ~ in favor of 980ti. As if something limits it when FPS is high = low resolution. It's not just the driver otherwise the difference between him and 980ti was similar across all resolutions. This is not a shortage of volume or memory space that is safe. There is talk of too low ROPs. I don't get it.
    All AMD tickets reduce gaps with the competitor as the resolution increases, sometimes from a low tap to a high tap. And this has been known for many generations. If it was once attributed to differences in memory volumes, it is clearer today that this is mainly due to differences in the architecture itself.
  31. This time it is really significant, indicating something about any GCN architecture that is targeting the wrong place right now.
    4K is not common enough to justify such a trade-off in its performance with 1080. Not for 1440 either.
    This is probably the right card architecture at the wrong time. Quite depressing to think what they went through with the bulldozer in the processors and see that, even if not as powerfully, coming back with GCN.

    980ti has some other small advantages besides impressive OC. This in itself is sufficient for the upper market but with more diverse connections and variants from different manufacturers the difference is only more significant. When the price is the same, the little things get big weight.

  32. My hypothesis - tickets from both camps will see a similar improvement. Maybe a few percent in favor of one side. Not something that will turn tables at least until there are games built with the thought of implementing DX12 capabilities. There may already be ones that after patch will show a nice improvement as with mantle. It may not take a year + until its proper exploitation. And question - Anyone have long experience with closed (pre-prepared) water systems with CPU or GPU? How do they behave over time? In dust-cooled air, dust accumulates and fans are noisy and stop working, how about water?

    From my experience with liquid cooling of my processor I can say one thing:
    The more I don't get close to these liquid coolers in a closed system, they are not really quality, noisier than advanced air coolers, they also accumulate dust on the radiators, and in tempura they aren't really much better than advanced air coolers, or even worth it, but what, they are a lot More expensive than air coolers, so I inferred poorly, liquid coolers are regrets Bertha and no longer buys and recommends to no one, you will get no value far outweighing advanced air coolers, and you will pay much more expensive, and again, they are also usually more noisy than air coolers, Because a radiator fan is always more noisy than a radiator fan Air coolers due to the higher density of the ribs in a liquid radiator than the density of the ribs in normal air cooling, which is of course yes, because at rest they are both equal and quiet, but what determines this is the load and uncomfortable.

    That's why I'm a little worried about this AMD FURY X card with its liquid cooling, because I have to choose which card to buy, that's why we'll wait a bit and see what the quality of this card will be like, especially its liquid cooling.

  33. In the 90 years I had a Mac Pro job working on IBM G5 processors, these processors were so hot -
    Chappell had to undergo water cooling and the result was not overdue for all of these roaches to have run out of liquidity.
    I remember we were working with empty glasses of water next to the computer, it was just a shame.
    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/4851136

  34. That's not the case here, it's a Closed Loop refrigeration of a market-recognized company, just like the AIO processors cooler, only here it is hidden from the bracket. And those who do not want the Fury to launch regular air cooling of the various companies, it is a little less performance but also at a lower price.

  35. That's not the case here, it's a Closed Loop refrigeration of a market-recognized company, just like the AIO processors cooler, only here it is hidden from the bracket. And those who do not want the Fury to launch regular air cooling of the various companies, it is a little less performance but also at a lower price.

    And why do you think closed system fluid coolers from recognized manufacturers on the market are so good ?! , I wouldn't say so, I have the same liquid refrigerant from a well-known manufacturer, Coursier, their expensive model - H100i, and believe me it's just a horror, just problems with it that is already standard normal air cooling and not those water coolers, even though they are well-known manufacturers but still They are problematic. I'm already dying to flip it and return my good old Noctoa NH-D14, which by the way cost far less than H100i.

  36. True, but agree with me that the market for water coolers in 2003 is not the same market today.

  37. Neither is true either.

    The fact that even today, well-known manufacturers still sometimes make compromises and sometimes produce non-quality closed liquid cooling systems.

    But leave it, we have already surfaced, this is a separate topic for the cooling forum :)

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