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AMD unveils the Radeon VII - a graphics card that will try to slow down the Geforce RTX

Power of Radeon For the first time, it reaches the levels that presented graphics cards such as GTX 1080 Ti and RTX 2080 with The new VII - the first ever 7 nm

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More at the event of At the CES 2019 conference: The VEGA core we have known at 2017 receives a contraction of 7 nm and technical reinforcement to meet the needs of gamers and content creators who need more and want to go for .

The VEGA core is one of the most controversial issues that AMD has ever launched, at least when it comes to video cards for gamers, with Vega 64 and Vega 56, which are pretty good video cards, but slightly too expensive and a bit too late. The 10 GTX Series Cast a heavy shadow on their sales with high electrical efficiency and great performance.

Here comes a promo video in surprise after Lisa Sue, director Clarifies how gaming is growing and there is demand.

God- VII (or 7 Preferred) is the first consumer video card manufactured in the process of 7 Nanometers Factory .

This video card has some very interesting technical features, when Does not give up the use of the Dear and put 16GB away on this video card. The volume of memory traffic is 1024GB per second, which is considered the fastest in the market.

When it comes to gaming performance, it ensures Provide a similar user experience that will be received today by a RTX 2080 user, a start-up video card of 800 dollars. The improvements look pretty good compared to 64, but the earth remained calm and did not tremble.

There's also a glimpse of productivity, where we've got some nice improvements on my face 64 in a variety of programs, some of which are possible by increasing the amount of memory from 8GB to 16GB.

Such a video card is not cheap to create, and dedicated users know it. Has chosen to price the ticket at 699 USD, 2080 to create pressure and competition.

We do not know how you will react With such a move, since it may not be so threatening to its sales. Also, the graphics cards it still produces in the process of 12 nanometers bring pretty good results. If you decide to go down to 7, the image will look slightly different . This video card was released on February 7 market and it is hard to know how popular it will be. We maintain that apart from the existing Vega acceleration plans Also its next architecture.


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    1. It's not clear to me why do you think they deserve to compete with NVIDIA with such a card?
      A card that compares it to a two-year-old card ……?
      It's best to buy 1080TI by hand and work with it for at least another two years.

    2. AMD as always behind ... After taking out the last tickets that for some reason faced the 1060 (two years after they went on the market) I am not surprised that they are still behind.

      For 100 dollars less I will not invest in AMD card, and not talking about the last card I had with delusional graphics issues, see no reason to buy AMD

  1. Quote of No-one

    how AMD Launching a video card in 7nm and 16GB and is less than good than 2080TI, what is missing?

    Money, research and development, manpower.

  2. Quote of No-one

    What is missing in the card itself, the architecture is weak relative to the competitor?

    An outdated and inefficient architecture that must be pushed to the edge (tensions) to get reasonable performance in relation to competition. That is why electricity consumption is so high even though it is a very advanced production process. AMD dates back years from NV.
    They do not have the resources or will to invest in the development of the GPU. Therefore, there is no reason to pin hopes for a change in the market situation. Even in the price bracket that was their strong point, they are leveling NV line up.
    The insistence (which is probably not voluntary of necessity) to remain with HBM2 and to put excessive 16GB on it again shows that nothing has changed in their perception.
    The gaming market is their second priority if not third (after CPU and consoles).

  3. What about the middle market and the budget market? Competing for 2060 and 2070?

    Did they say what to expect, and when?

  4. I don't think in terms of "they deserve" or "they don't deserve".

    Hardware buying emotions I left behind when I stopped being a teenager that never happened because I'm a man….

    99% of the second hand market is not relevant to me because I need a tax invoice.

  5. For those interested in knowing exactly what it means :

    AMD continues with the precious memories of HBM and had to switch to 7nm to give us a performance video card,

    Sort with 1080Ti. Far from being a positive thing but also not surprising. Maybe the card will suit the aliens beyond the gaming market.

    His price tag could lower the RTX cards that he would be relevant and make him a shelf product for gamers to overlook.

    1. I'm pretty sure Nvidia is out there with what they have in hand and who's in front of them, AMD doesn't give them a price tag with that kind of fuck.

  6. RTX 2080 cards have already made a slight decline, as detailed in this.

    Although the price point of 2080 has never been very good, it is already available at approximately $ 750

  7. Is there a situation that 2080 will experience FPS falls due to the 8GB limit? Because there are already games that utilize 8GB in 4K and then maybe VEGA7 will provide a smoother experience (in the field of 0.1% / 1%)? I was disappointed that the 1080TI changer was cut to 8GB memory only and therefore in the near future will be limited to 4K.

    1. There is an 4k that takes an 8 member that depends on the file but with the miserable speeds of the AM Islands it is best to cry

  8. I've already posted that although there is a good 1440P ticket at an excellent price and it will be launched with Reisen, GURU3D has been used to sign various NDAs in the field that received a "tip".

    It seems to me that in the meantime do not want to interfere with the liquidation of Vega 64 / 56 inventory, then NAVI will come to fill its place in price / performance.
    The gamers just need to keep their fingers crossed that mining will not come back because only for Ethereum will the new Vogue have been hijacked by the huge memory bandwidth it has.

      1. What do our NV brothers pay you money for? Or are you 10 ???? Let's see ... shit ... come on and I don't admire anyone and don't pay me, I've said enough annoying people that people talk like little kids and right things from reality .... NV has issued relatively excellent cards to AMD who are behind in the field. Intel's processors are no longer attractive and certainly no better than Intel's all!

  9. Quote of TheHwGeek

    Is there a situation where 2080 will experience FPS falls due to the 8GB limit? Because there are already games that use 8GB in 4K and then maybe VEGA7 will give a smoother experience (in the field of 0.1% / 1%)? I was disappointed that the 1080TI replacement was cut to 8GB זיכרון Only so in the near future will limit in 4K.

    No memory problem on video cards with 8GB or higher. Not on 4K either.

    The fact that there is utilization does not indicate any need - memory allocation makes every card as far as it can.
    To bring an exceptional example testifies precisely to this - neither the general nor the close.

  10. I can not see the boom again.

    Bubbles in history show that they do not repeat themselves in the same field again and certainly not in a short time.

    To ensure that this does not happen is impossible, but the probability of this is statistically small.

    The main reason that paramedics do not recur in the same area in a short time,

    This is because the burnt trauma of those who entered the bubble and the severe blow they suffered has remained burning for many years.

    In fact, there must come a new generation that did not know its predecessor, a generation that was not burned, in order to repeat the mistake of the previous generation.

    We are probably talking about 20 year at least breathing space, in terms of order of magnitude to be addressed.

    In the world millions literally lost their underpants in that krypot and all directions,

    They are dry investors, and they are wet miners.

    In fact, I do not know from direct acquaintance with anyone who has made money on this. Everyone has lost track of just a few.

  11. Addition to this Poor Company's Pile of Oops Oh We Didn't Steal Video Cards O Our Cards Without Heat Problems Oh 64 Won't Turn Off After Using Some Dangerous Hours When Will This Company Give Competition To Some Company 😔

  12. Something strange, at first it was claimed that the new card contains 128 ROPS but now it turns out that it will remain on 64 like the original Vega, so how did AMD achieve the performance improvement over the Vega? Because the new Vega only with 60CU versus 64 in Vega, so all that's left is extra frequency and multiplying bandwidth to memory, does memory have that much impact? Because RTX also does not interfere with 500GB / S.

    https://twitter.com/RyanSmithAT/status/1083876562238201857

  13. This is a card that has been launched before 3 for months and named Instinct MI50, Just add video ports to it that will serve as a video card and not just a computing unit. Everything else is completely the same.
    A product that continues the failed VEGA tradition of wrapping a card that is not intended for gaming at all and marketing it as such.

    AMD did the minimum necessary to present something "new", almost a spit in my face. His entire promotional line is "First with 7NM and first with 16GB 2HBM". It's really not something to be proud of in light of what they provide, on the contrary. These are 2 things given to AMD "from heaven" and have no part in their development - there is no innovation from AMD here. Just embedding external technology.


    There was some added value, even some refreshing experience or direction (such as DLSS), but there is nothing here. Simply the same, as usual. Performance enhancement comes by pushing the card to the edge of its envelope so that a card in the most advanced 7NM production process needs more electricity to compare performance with the 12NM 2080 card, which is AMD's regular ritual in recent years. Excessive volume that reduces profits, does not contribute to performance and prevents competitive pricing.
    The only thing AMD has been leading over the years - cost-benefit ratio - no longer exists and they line up with NV. No longer trying to produce competition - just stay in the race at all costs.

    Once NV has refreshed its consumer product range with 7NM, the performance gap will return to 100-80% between 2 companies (between VEGA64 and 2080TI) 85% difference For the same manufacturing process).

    Some will say that after this launch there is more selection and competition in this segment - my opinion is that this is a big step back in terms of competition. It just goes to show how much AMD is not in the business of this market and it is, overall, a commercial company committed to shareholders and not consumers and certainly not gamers.
    It's a pity that there are no better alternatives in this semi-monopolistic market. The choice is who is less bad. At least until Intel enters the game.

    1. I'm disappointed with everything ... less interesting to me about RT but I thought at last we would see the 4K card competing for the green flag at a more normal price I was disappointed I saw what they would bring with Nawi although I'm sure it wouldn't fit 4K I really hope they don't spend anything because it's not Time is right and not something else ... Lisa clearly said that they do consider gamers ... Today you can not tell who is lying and who is not and even if it is only middle-aged players ... I personally probably will have to buy 1080TI and what it does not come to me until March we will see what will be

  14. Why do their video cards look all the time like it's something they bought in Bali Express ..

  15. Quote of omertgm

    There is no memory problem with video cards with 8GB or higher. Not even at4k.

    The fact that there is exploitation does not indicate anything about the need-of-induction זיכרון Makes every card as much as it can.
    To bring an exceptional example testifies precisely to this - neither the general nor the close.


    Usually there are signs outside of something new, so these things come in as well. 16GB Memory of V7nm This is the first clue.

    They are long working on the hardware of next-generation consoles, this among other things precursors that there is a great chance to see using 8GB in fun

    In the years 2019-2020. I think we're definitely going through the 6GB barrier this year, but that's not usually the FHD.

    That's why anyone who buys now .. 1080Ti is so relevant .. I'm even considering bringing one and get rid of my 1070 just to reserve

    The next 3-4 years.

  16. Quote of coch


    Usually there are signs out there for something new, so you also get hit by these things. 16GB memory V7nm's first hint.

    They are long working on the hardware of next-generation consoles, this among other things precursors that there is a great chance to see using 8GB in fun

    In the years 2019-2020. I think we're definitely going through the 6GB barrier this year, but that's not usually the FHD.

    That's why anyone who buys now .. 1080Ti is so relevant .. I'm even considering bringing one and get rid of my 1070 just to reserve

    The next 3-5 years.

    To think about the next point: This is a market whose purpose is to make profits. The more you sell / upgrade a card the more often there are more profits.
    How can I "promote" an upgrade?
    A-Make the consumer internalize that he has to play on all the maximum settings in order to enjoy the game. Be it HD texture maps that require a memory, high resolution, high refresh rate, excessive AA or other features like RT. If your card is not capable of that - you do not really enjoy the game.
    In developing the games so that the threshold for all of the above increases regularly to be a promoter of the next ticket. There is a very high synergy between the game keys and the hardware manufacturers and not coincidentally. They feed each other at the expense of the consumer. With a bit of fine tuning the effect precisely Desired so that you feel "my card is not strong enough" will come at the desired time.

    This is reality.

    The average consumer has full control over what A - what would be considered a reasonable graphics definition for him. He has no control over B.

    To say "this is the situation there is nothing to do" is to force yourself to buy a ticket every year and a half or to always be missing out. That's not true either - there's something to do. One can easily change settings and it is possible to understand that this is not what determines the fun of the game. It has weight but not as crucial as it does. Just settle on settings and not be a "slave" of the upgrade industry.

    From experience, they enjoy it even more than the game.

    My point, if you have a card with a fairly unnecessary 8GB run upgrade to 11GB. Probably not because of "there are signs out there for something new". Of course there will be signs - this is intentional and structured by the industry so you feel exactly the need to upgrade.

  17. It reminds me of the paradox of the "computer in 20 thousand NIS for 8 years" that sometimes happens in the forum.

    When you need to upgrade it will come equipped with new technologies and cheap. that's it

  18. I will be a bit blunt, because I allow myself to tell the truth to such distinguished friends as

    This 2 hand is excellent, not just on video cards or computer hardware. In general, this is a true concept - to recycle.


    I'll try to shorten it because it's already a matter of taste and smell and an almost philosophical discussion: You said nicely - you do not have to upgrade, you want to.
    It is clear to you that there is no real need here - not lack of graphic memory is the reason for upgrading, is the maximum excuse. It's just like that and you can.

    In general, the used market has no real relevance to the industry's attempt to produce the same "need" simply because they have no profit there. The more used the better.
    I personally buy a ticket once in 5 years or so (now with 970GTX, before with 560TI and before it with 8800GT). With the current I will stay a few more years until the screen will probably change.
    It's clear to me that I can buy a used one, but since I rarely exchange, I "allow" myself to buy a new one. It is also clear to me that I buy not only this card but also the "new feeling" and that it costs me quite a bit of money. For me, that's fine.

    What bothers you is that people find excuses that are not relevant to what to buy when the real reason is that they are unaware (or simply hiding) that they are trying to buy a feeling, not just a product. This is of course impractical and drags on the spoils of misunderstandings.

  19. Quote of omertgm

    That they are trying to buy both a feeling and not just a product.

    A sense of responsibility, and it is worth a lot, especially at these prices.

    Just a person would prefer to pay twice as much and get a quiet 3 years than pay less without warranty, even if they prove statistically that there are no glitches, unless these are negligible products, which is not the case here.

  20. Quote of No-one

    A sense of responsibility, and it is worth a lot, especially at these prices.

    It's true but I'm talking about things beyond that.
    This is not really the right forum, but people try (to a certain extent) to buy through the product a self-esteem, a sense of security, belonging, some proof or expression of the truth they believe in.
    Simply put, people embody the product, often without knowing it, as desires and feelings that are not relevant to the considerations they give to the cause of the purchase.

    These desires / emotions are very easy to exploit to sell that one things that he does not need or does not want at all.

    This is the basis in the psychology of advertising and this is the essence of the destructive consumer culture today.

  21. The reason for the responsibility for a new product is in response to the "manufacturing failure" case, which naturally arises only after

    That the product had passed its first baptism of fire. Such as purchasing an electric circuit that works the first few hours

    And therefore tested at the factory gates, it appears to be normal - because he did not die at the lone test that the product was run at the factory,

    And so we pack in a package that goes out to markets. But the failure of the same product will only be discovered after a while… say at the 20 of his work….

    Most of the equipment failures of the type discussed are revealed in the first days / weeks / months of operation.

    And if the product succeeds at that time without problems - the product in principle without failure / defect of fortification, and from this point and you will survive for a long time.

    Once purchasers are used after such initial period,

    In fact, he has already passed the proof of correctness, because he passed the first year on the road - this is his long QC

    When he worked in the home of the first buyer. From this point I have the chance to fall down on a scale, so the responsibility is small.

    Anyone who buys new and pays anywhere from 2 to 3 in size just because of the "responsibility" and the peace of mind it gives him,

    Editing error due to lack of statistical knowledge in the industry. He actually misses the essence for which the original responsibility was born,

    And that this is very important for a virgin product whose reliability has not yet been proven. Remember that the factory checked it for only a few minutes to an hour

    Principle sizing - This is a basic QC procedure only.

    In the used product as stated, the proof of its propriety (due to the long QC that passed at the first purchaser's house) already exists

    Proved itself to be faulty, and therefore the importance of responsibility fell dramatically.

    What is the practical meaning - or how it is expressed:

    If we take a heap of (many) new cards, as opposed to a stack of equal size of used cards (say year-olds who worked for a duration

    The same year), the reliability of the users will be statistically higher - fewer of them will die down the road.

    This is due to the fact that the defects in the same year-old pile were already remembered during the first year of their operation (a long QC process).

    Moreover, even if someone insists on responsibility anyway, and this is the only reason he acquires a new one (and for no other reason)

    You need to know that the percentage of the fall in the field (video cards, for example) converges to the 4% of the basic rough order.

    In other words, in order to properly represent the value of the liability in a statistical manner (according to which to determine the insurance premium for a product with liability)

    This should have been 4% of the value of the product, and certainly not in values ​​that are 2 or 3 (200-300%).

    This is already an excessive and exaggerated premium.

    It would have been better to buy a new one at a triple price, 3 used cards so that we would have an alternative shelf in case the first one went bad.

    This has been higher reliability than a single card (even if it is new).

  22. It is true that responsibility begins with a "fortification failure" cover, but it does not necessarily end there.

    I exercised responsibility for a noisy or life-threatening fan, a card that went into its third year with the resident on the motherboard, or just for some minor, critical physical damage under the radar. If I did damage or just didn't prevent it - it didn't interfere with the cover.

    Short and suppliers can take the card with them? I would be happy to settle for assuming that the defense mechanisms have improved, I pay for this premium.

  23. Quote of omertgm

    I'll try to shorten it because it's already a matter of taste and smell and an almost philosophical discussion: You said nicely - you do not have to upgrade, you want to.
    It is clear to you that there is no real need here - not lack of graphic memory is the reason for upgrading, is the maximum excuse. It's just like that and you can.

    That is not accurate. I said already, there are opportunities that sometimes you should consider. It is possible that in a particular difference for which I am negligible I resolve myself

    From an existing video card and another. If we look at the whole period that is about 6 years (the time I had the 1070 until the sale, + the time I hold

    We're talking about losing 1080, say 1070-500, depending on what I chose and which buyer I found in second hand.

    The deal is not only because I can, but highly calculated to accommodate future needs and lose the difference that is negligible for me.

    Quote of omertgm

    I personally buy a ticket once in 5 years or so (now with 970GTX, before with 560TI and before it with 8800GT). With the current I will stay a few more years until the screen will probably change.

    ONE WILL ATTRACT 5 YEARS, OTHER 7 YEARS, I 3-4 YEARS AND SO ON. Does anyone lose more than the other? Absolutely not, it's totally relative! Of course, assuming they talk

    About people with basic knowledge and above, like us. It is possible that if you did not have everything that was with 1000 cards and there was no possibility at all to buy tickets like the Ti

    At such second hand prices, I would pull another two to three years with the current card, which is a realistic option even now. I do not sell him for now, unless

    Yes I will see an opportunity.

    Quote of omertgm


    What bothers you is that people find excuses that are not relevant to what to buy when the real reason is that they are unaware (or simply hiding) that they are trying to buy a feeling, not just a product. This is of course impractical and drags on the spoils of misunderstandings.

    Buying a "feeling" is an integral part of being a human being, especially in the purchase of products that are used for your leisure / luxury / hobby. You can be a person

    More calculated / cold (for the better) that adds less emotion to the purchase, but there is nothing bad here that a person acquires something with emotion if it is not a hundred percent emotion.

    Part of the package.

  24. Remember I said the DEVISION2 representative who flew all the way from Sweden for a minute in AMD's announcement - claimed he was happy to announce that the game would support all new RADEON 7 technologies and immediately Lisa Sue interrupted him?

    Then there's more news from the AMD representative who claims the new card supports DirectML (Machine Learning (ML) extension to DirectX) !:

    https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_s_radeon_vii_supports_directml_-_an_alternative_to_dlss/1

  25. Quote of TheHwGeek

    Remember that I said that the representative of DEVISION2 who flew all the way from Sweden to appear a minute in the declaration of AMD- claimed to be happy to announce that the game will support all new technologies Radeon 7 and immediately Lisa Su interrupted him?

    So there is more news from the representative of AMD Which claims that the new card supports DirectML-Machine Learning (ML) extension to DirectX !:

    https://www.overclock3d.net/news/gpu_displays/amd_s_radeon_vii_supports_directml_-_an_alternative_to_dlss/1

    Note that WINML will use FP16 to improve performance, as everyone knows that the new NV's silicones are excellent at this end, but the Pascal generation offers only 1 / 64 from FP32 performance!

    While VEGA offers 2 times, which is above 25,166 GFLOPS and the Polaris generation offer an 1 ratio: 1 that's just above the 6000 GFLOPS!

    https://www.anandtech.com/show/12549/microsoft-windows-machine-learning-for-gaming

    Then it seems that finally the amount of processing power of cards AMD Going to be exploited while the Pascal generation will sink in comparison with the generation of the Touring !.

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    Don't help me ... I realized there would be 5 thousand for the whole world so even with technology right now it doesn't help :) Certainly not to consumers here in Israel

  26. I wonder - if this is indeed MI50 already in production and AMD just decided to market as an opportunity as a gaming card, is it really MI50 with PCB quality and components of the original card? That is, based on the fact that this is the reference card from AMD itself and may have just started the infusion / added counter or two to unlock RADEON's special pizzas + bios? Because that's how it sounds interesting to the professional consumer.

  27. Quote of TheHwGeek

    Pay attention to an article published in ANANDTECH, Where it is claimed that WINML will use FP16 to improve performance

    Can but does not have to. The technology is also available in FP32, and if FP16 does not work, it certainly will not hurt.

  28. Quote of TheHwGeek

    I wonder - if this is indeed MI50 already in production and AMD just decided to market as an opportunity as a gaming card, is it really MI50 with PCB quality and components of the original card? That is based on the fact that this is the reference card from AMD itself and maybe just swapped / added against or two to lock the special pizzas + bios of Radeon עם Cooling active? Because if that's the case, it will also sound interesting to the professional consumer.

    (On the other hand, it is less good for OCs because the VRM may be limited to the manufacturer's requirements for a product not intended for TDP + 50%).

    Radon 7 uses a completely new PCB.

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